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The many lies of Misterjingles

Post by koimaster » September 12th 2019, 4:22pm

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Well Mr. Jingles, you have taken too many shots at this forum in the last 11 months since you were banned for the second time. You told stories here and you continue them at your new site. So be it but I do not like receiving emails about you from members there either blaming me for being a bully in regards to you or telling me how unpatriotic is was to ban you. A bit of a reality check for you and your buddies there. Your posts and claims are in this thread. Some sent to me by members of WIT who have questioned your many fraudulent claims. No one really gives a fuck if you were or were not in the service. No one is looking for your records because no one cares one way or another about you. But you continue to blame myself or the members of this forum for you own lies which have been exposed. Too many lies by you, too many inaccurate facts, too many claims tripped you up. So look in a mirror, that is the person to blame.

From your fraudulent claims about yourself and your exploits to new ones about your late father, you dug a hole :diggn: for yourself. Hard for you to keep all of the lies straight mouse. From your post about flying an Air Force version of A7 Corsair (A7D) and then denying it or trying to make some excuse as to why you "might have flown a Navy A7 with Air Force avionics" to claiming only a few hundred hours in the F/A18 to having 3000 hours in them. Claiming to have been a pilot of a the Navy F/A18E which had not even been certified for Navy use until late 2001. By the way, the term "lawn dart" refers to the F-16 crashes while they were being tested, not an F/A18 crashing.

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The newest version by you of how you flew an Air Force bird which is a D version of the A7 Corsair EXCEPT there was only 1 (one) TA-7D ever made and you never flew it.

A-7D
Version built for the USAF, with one Allison TF41-A-1 turbofan, and a single M61 Vulcan 20 mm rotary cannon; AN/APN-153 navigational radar in earlier models is replaced by AN/APN-185 navigational radar, AN/APQ-116 terrain following radar in earlier A-7B/C is replaced by AN/APQ-126 terrain following radar; 459 built.

In 1979, LTV received a contract to convert an A-7D to two-seat TA-7D configuration. The TA-7D was a two seat advanced trainer with dual tandem seating, both crewmen being housed underneath a single canopy, the seat in the rear being raised so that the aircraft had a distinct humpbacked appearance. It was given a longer front and rear fuselage. The two-seater had full operational capability and could carry the same weapons that the single-seater could. The aircraft was later redesignated A-7K .

In addition to the prototype, Vought built 30 new A-7K two seaters. Unlike the Navy's TA-7Cs, the USAF's A-7Ks were new builds and were not conversions of earlier single-seaters. Delivery to ANG units began in 1981, and production of the A-7K ended in September of 1984.

Serial Numbers of Ling-Temco-Vought A-7K Corsair II

79-0460/0471 Ling-Temco-Vought A-7K Corsair II
c/n K.001/012.
80-0284/0295 Ling-Temco-Vought A-7K Corsair II
c/n K.013/024.
81-0072/0077 Ling-Temco-Vought A-7K Corsair II


A-7H
Modified A-7E for Greece without air-refuelling capability, 60 built.
TA-7H
Two-seat trainer version for Greece.


Did you ever tell Road Warrior that you informed me he was spying on Watchlords to report back to WIT? I have no idea why anyone would need to spy on this forum. It is open with over 100 forums and sub-forums open to the public. Members only forums are just that as is the political forum which is by request only. So "spying" on the forum is a waste of time but hey, if it makes you feel good about yourself, go for it.


How was it that in your intro post you claimed to have flown the F/A18E when she was not even released to the Navy until 26, September 2001 which would have been AFTER your imagined injures on 9/11. In your rant at Wit you also made comments about the "injury list" which in fact is real.

All those active duty members injured or killed received the Purple Heart and the civilians were awarded a special Medal of Valor. Access to that list is limited due to privacy but if you are looking for one person as a member (not me) did in 2016 after you once again stated you had been badly injured, then it is easy to confirm. That person was in fact a "squid" as you called him.

You also mentioned something about a person here or there like a "flight surgeon" who you tried to throw shade on. Well that man, now retired from the Navy was my personal doctor and also performed emergency surgery on Carol in an attempt to stop internal bleeding. He did so but her Lymphoma ended her life a week later. Part of his bio is below.

Not able to afford school, I signed up with the US Navy to pay tuition. That was the beginning of a 25 year career that allowed me to learn to fly military aircraft. Following five years with the US Marine Airwing I became a Doctor and retired from the Navy as Captain.
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And feel free to post a photo of your Purple Heart Award (you said you had two) or the awards for the 8 Air medals you have claimed to have. You hung yourself long time ago with your lies. Do you think folks here are stupid? I imagine you think the folks at WIT are stupid but I doubt that many buy your lies.

This is not watchgeeks but I look at you the same way I looked at Horsetrack, a liar who posted replica watches as real. In your case I see a person who may have been in the service but has embellished a military record to garner attention to themselves and to say "look at me! I am important! No, you are not important, nor a hero nor a Navy pilot. You could have just been a regular guy with watches or an interest in them but you chose to be the center of attention.

So recently you went after Allison, who was a Fire Chief in the US Army when she retired. Nice, :sarc: but given the way you attacked your wife here on WL in the Vinyl thread (records) nothing surprises me anymore. As you have forgotten to tell your friends at WIT all of the truth I will fill in the blanks for them.

You were banned twice (2x) by me, both times for attacking members here on the forum. The first time some of those members asked me to let you back into the forum so I did. The second time it took me 2 weeks to decide what I was going to do and asked members here for input. So you were banned for a second time. Did you tell your friends that you attacked John aka conjurer and when that personal attack post was removed you re-posted it at BDWF and then was banned there as well. Poor little mouse, everyone picks on him **^&

You managed to get folks suspicious of you all by yourself and they contacted me and then they followed up. For the record, I could care less if you were in the service or not, nor what you did if in fact you did serve. I do care that you attacked members here in violation of the TOS and I had to warn you more than once to stop it. I do care that you were banned once before here because of your attacks on members and those members asked me to give you a second chance. I do care that you attacked a well respected member here on the forum and at two other sites. I do care that even though those posts were removed, you persisted in posting them to harm him and blame him for problems you were causing.

You are quite the piece of work Jingles. You make yourself out to be the hero, the center of attention and at the same time, the victim being harassed by a "stalker", the evil members of Watchlords and the it seems, the world in general. That is fine, I run the place so I will take the blame as the bad guy but I am going to give you some advice, according to Article 2 of UCMJ, "Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay" are covered by UCMJ which means it you are claiming medals or other things and it is not true, you can be court-martialed. I suggest you think about that. I am done with you jingles and so are members here.

I have until today refrained from doing much about you but your behavior strikes me less of an officer and more of some displaced watchgeek. As to Watchintyme, since that is where you currently hold court, I am glad to hear that many of them have decided to try other brands or have decided that some brands lie but at least they know what they are buying which was the original intent of this "hater" site. So this "hater" as I am called accomplished something if just one person thought about not falling for a sales pitch without checking. WTF have you accomplished in this hobby other than bullshit rants, long winded posts and piles of bullshit?

As to your collecting of military items, fine with me, I am grateful that there are military memorabilia collectors out there who preserve history and allow us to share in it but I suspect you are all mouth. but collecting military items does not mean you were part of their history.



I will be direct, you were NEVER a Naval Aviator and your own posts prove you lies. Why would anyone need your records when you have provided the proof of your lies here on this forum and elsewhere.

You are beneath contempt in my opinion. I have ignored you until today and even went so far as to ask Steve Fore to stop your attempts at starting a forum war but he blew it off it seems. Fine with me. Keep trying to spread your poison. You are a nobody jingles, just a rodent but perhaps all of your claims should be sent to a local paper or two. I have no doubt the local press would love to interview a survivor of 9/11 who resides in their area.

Oh, just a thought, did you get your information about aviation from the USS Midway Museum which is in your area? You know it has A-1 Skyraiders, A-7 Corsairs and even a F/A18 and quite the collection of flight jackets too. Members of wit or any forum are welcome here but you overstayed your welcome with me a long time ago.


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There has never been a "virtual dossier" about you or anyone else. Your paranoia is your own problem just as was your claim that I could read private messages. In fact I went as far as posting a photo of the admin panel showing all of the "hacks" installed. No ability to read messages nor would there ever be. You and you alone are responsible for getting yourself banned here.



You illegally used the registration numbers of other aircraft on your photo shopped air planes in the photos below.

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Alain,
I have found one of the pics that Mort uses (after photoshopping) it is a Gulfstream G550 taking off from a runway in Bologna, Italy. The aircraft is registered to a GAMA aviation. It's registration number is MPBKI which means it is registered in the Isle of Man. I can't find the other picture, but based on the paint I would guess that it is N96UA which is registered in the US to Under Armour . I'll look some more later.







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Intro Post. It is SLUF not SLUFF unless you are a model builder. No fucking pilot who ever flew the SLUF would call it anything else and the A-7D you claim to have flown was Air Force ONLY. No Navy flyboys needed to apply. I, in fact told you that the D was Air Force only and you came up with some cock and bullshit story about shared avionics, maybe in "flight school".

SLUF aka short little ugly fucker! not short little fat fellow. Model makers use the acronym SLUFF term.


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https://www.airvectors.net/ava7.html#m2

As to the SLUFF [or SLUF, if you prefer] D version, I don't recall ever claiming to have flown one before. However, I may have actually flown a modified D very briefly during my type training phase; it was rumored that some of the a/c we flew during that phase were old USAF "D" trainers with updated avionics. IF I said anything about "D" stick-time, it would have been in relation to that rumor, but again, I don't think I ever did.

Actually you did claim to have flown the D
( USAF ONLY) in your intro post which is in this thread. The USAF never had a TA-7D trainer, only one was ever made and it was a prototype. The D trainers were designated K models and given to the Air National Guard.

(1) I actually retired as a CAPT(Select) from the USN; what that means is I was selected for O-6, but retired before my actual promotion date. But I never referred to myself as CAPT(Select), nor did I mention this selection for promotion to anyone, either HERE, @WF or @BDWF. (For the record, though, it states CDR/O-5, not O-6/CAPT, on my ID card, which is normal, because that was my rank at the time of my retirement.)


No you did not.



(2) I was an exchange officer with the Israeli Armed Forces for the better part of a year; as a Jew, it was a great source of pride and pleasure to have been able to do this, but I largely kept it to myself. I think I may have posted a picture of a flight jacket I wore over there, along with a watch of the same or similar color, but that's about as close as I came to mentioning it.


No, you were not.





(3) I AM the recipient of the Legion of Merit. In point of fact, it was my RETIREMENT award, something that, in USN circles, is not at ALL an unusual award for an O-6 select. But even so, I have numerous friends who received that award as an O-5, so any blanket statement about who does and who doesn't get an award like that is a chancy thing. I received that LOM (which is what WE used to call it until just a few years ago) on the day I retired, and never got to wear it other than on the day it was pinned to me.


Maybe, maybe not but one cares one way or another but as I have stated, you were never an 0-6 Select.

And, finally:

So now you can intercept PM's, huh? Well congratulations to you, Alain; you win the Sentaor Joe McCarthy Award for Paranoia... And if you CAN'T intercept them, then one of the recipients of the PM has betrayed me.

And, yes, I obviously wrote that message; I was angry and upset about losing something I was very proud of. And, yes, I referred to you in less-than-polite terms, admittedly more insultingly than the 'offense' probably required. I was pissed off at you, and that's why I wrote what I did. (I HAVE, however, written worse things than that during our arguments in the political forums, so THIS was nothing by comparison.) At any rate I apologize for the contents of the PM and hope you will accept that apology, including the crack about Joe McCarthy above. (Still I HAVE to say that I AM surprised that you, of all people, would access PM's like that, Alain; I'd MUCH prefer that it were one of my best WL friends betraying me than your doing such a thing as that.)


Betrayed you? I think you have that backwards. You attempted to cause the forum harm by going after me and that is gutless. You call me names (Mr. Bipolar) or (the petty workings of that permanent man-child's mind). Despite all of your so called apologies I think of you as a petty little man with an over-sized ego. You go after people like Carl or Eddiea and others like some keyboard commando.

My response to this from Misterjingles is below.
Your claim about being proud about your military service may in part be true but you also attempt to use it like a bludgeon on those who do not think like you. You use it to make yourself better than others when in fact everyone puts a pair of pants on the same way. Everything is about poor old mort. There are many, many Vets on WL and here at WFN. (updated to Bestdamnwatchforum aka BDWF)

Not one has ever mentioned as often as you do their time in the service. Allison was a firefighter (Fire Chief) in the Army, Max has never spoken about his service, nor have many of the others. Only you talk about your 26 years of Military service over and over again. You remind me of a man named Mr. Johnson as he was my father's age. He told everyone all of the time he was in the Navy during WWII but he forgot that my father was served in WWII as did the fathers and in some cases, the mothers of all of the kids in the neighborhood. It is a watch forum, not a pissing contest on some military related board.

Watchlords and bestdamnwatchforum are bigger than you, me or anyone one member. That was proven 4 years ago when the forum went on without me due to my injuries and subsequent months of recovery.

I will decide what will happen by this weekend. In the meantime your account is suspended at WL.
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Of course a real Naval Aviator had to fix your post for you. I





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I was sent this link by two members of this forum pointing out that there is no reference to you between 2005-2007 as a Captain Select. I assume since it is an official navy site that they made a mistake of omission? :roll: Reality, you were never on the select list so why tell folks that you were?.

https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/ ... N2007.aspx


And how do you claim to have gone to Annapolis aka the Naval Academy?
Your own words in a thread about John McCain passing away which you turned into a political one forcing me to move it into the political forum. Your own words, " I went to a REAL college.

Mine goes back to his USN service. Hey, I’ve no trouble with his four years as a cadet in the U. S. Naval Academy, a place that is difficult to get into, unless your daddy and granddaddy went there…oh, wait… Anyway, as I went to a real college, I’ve no comment to make regarding his years there, other than to say that, to get an aviation billet out of the academy, you had to have a lot of smarts…unless your daddy & granddaddy, um, nevermind…
Same thread -
John Songbird]. McCain’s remains are to be interred at the U. S. Naval Academy. And even though I went to a real college, the thought of that skunk’s remains threatening the Annapolis water tables makes me want to break out the airsick bags all over again.

Now, if you’re one of those people who’re going to get upset with me for what I’ve said above, I regret that I’ve plopped a big ‘ol turd in your punchbowl with what I’ve said here. After all, you’re entitled to your opinion, too, and I respect that opine of yours, even if it’s 180-degrees opposite mine. But I do have to ask you something, though: what color is the sky in your world?

//Mort is Winchester and RTB, state 2.2, angels 24//


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Please notice something else as well. He has recently claimed to have attended the Naval Academy but we all know he did not. Even so, he has made a big deal of his claim of 26 years of service dating back from his alleged retirement in 2007. That would be 1981 yet he claims to have worked at Record Warehouse until 82 and into the mid 80s in his post as well. When did he find time to go to college let alone Annapolis?

I will also note the way he speaks about his wife. A true class act.







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The rank of Gunnery Sergeant was replaced by technical sergeant in 1946 until restored in 1959, when the crossed rifles insignia were added to Marine chevrons so I am curious how he passed the exam for Gunnery Sgt in 1953.



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Two Purple Hearts? Did you get one for your non-existent injuries on 9/11 and the other from being hit by a flying donut?


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And your rather interesting excuse as to why you photoshopped a photo of a brave man to suit your agenda.


https://watchintyme.com/showthread.php? ... light=SPAD

I have nothing but respect for the man you say is your father but none for you. Your father had a good life and career but I fail to understand how you think embellishing it to suit your purposes would increase his already well earned and respected life. He has gone from being a Staff Sergeant in the Corp (a Hero from the Korean war) and then an Intelligence Officer in the Navy to being the non existent rank of "Gunnery Sgt" when no such rank existed at the time you claim. He has had a photo altered to fit your story about being a pilot and "blood wings", an Airborne tradition seldom seen in the Navy since Vietnam. Did it make you feel Macho posting that? By your photo shopping fake wings into that photo you erased the honors your father so proudly displayed, honors he earned.

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real photo of naval aviator with wings above the ribbon bar.





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Hello, All (or at least those of you who have been posting here, hoping for some kind of interaction, ANY kind of interaction), please allow me to respectfully disagree with my friend, John/JAS, who started this thread several months ago.

DO NOT join watchlords OR watchforums, unless you're prepared to have a virtual dossier kept on you that contains anything you might have inadvertently posted that was incorrect, or something the owner considers subversive and an attack on the site, or ANYTHING AT ALL he feels he can use against you. I KNOW this because THAT's what he did to ME.

I was the highest "rank" one could hold over at WL, the "Asshat/Master of Time" designation. My reviews and vintage articles had their own byline at WL, and at one time, I was actually being considered to become the site's alternate administrator. Yet, despite all this, the paranoid who owns and operates both places kept his file updated on me; if I misquoted the NATO designation of an aircraft (which I once did, referring to the F-8 Crusader as the A-8), it was noted for use against me at a later date. (And it WAS used, lemme tell you!)

He even copied my introductory post over at Watchintyme, again looking for "inconsistencies," as he called them. (And, for reasons I will explain later, he found plenty of them.) But he did even better than THOSE things; he has at least one spy at watchlords, someone who monitors the morale and/or activity of those who participate, and if there's anything to report to Kim Un Koi, this guy does so. And how do I know THIS, you ask? Because, when I, out of pure frustration with the way I was being treated over there, wrote a PM that denigrated The Dear Leader, it was immediately forwarded to Alain, owner and administrator of watchlords, who immediately threw it back into my face, along with a collection of items he'd "sussed out" to prove I was not who and what I said I was.

When I owned up to and apologized for the attacking tone of the PM, his reply was chilling, even to me, a 26-year Veteran of the Cold War: My attack on him was actually an attack on the SITE, he said, if you can believe that. Oh well, if Hitler could -- and DID -- once say, "I am Germany," I suppose it's okay if koimaster says, "I am watchlords."


Well, all, in the coming days and weeks, it's my intent to spell out everything that happened over @WL (and @WF, too) that led to my "downfall." It's going to take some time and more than a few entries, but at least some of you will no doubt detect the ring of truth in what I say.

I had long suspected an unpleasant undercurrent over at watchlords, but had written it off to the anger one feels when one is unfairly banned, as many of the members were at the original Watchgeeks site. However, instead of fading away, this undercurrent got more and more pungent, especially after I'd gotten banned there and then reinstated with little or no explanation. In the end, I found out what the stench over there was all about. "The Original and Only Uncensored Watch Forum" was neither.


More to come...
More to come is right mouse. You are so full of shit your eyes are brown.

I was the highest "rank" one could hold over at WL, the "Asshat/Master of Time" designation. My reviews and vintage articles had their own byline at WL, and at one time, I was actually being considered to become the site's alternate administrator. Yet, despite all this, the paranoid who owns and operates both places kept his file updated on me; if I misquoted the NATO designation of an aircraft (which I once did, referring to the F-8 Crusader as the A-8), it was noted for use against me at a later date. (And it WAS used, lemme tell you!)
[b]Highest RANK is "FOUNDER" and that is me and at NO time were you ever considered to an an assistant admin here. I have no idea what would have made you think something like that as there are folks here that I have known and trusted for many years and you were not one of them. Let put this into perspective for you and for your readers, while I was recovering from the auto accident and the injuries I had, the founding members of this forum were responsible for it and took very good care of it. They are the folks I trust to run this forum and they are the folks I ask advice from when I have to decide something such as banning you for the 2ND TIME!




Your attack on another member in violation of the 9 year old TOS (that is terms of service for those who claim to be a 9/11 survivor) A couple of your personal attacks on members are below

You haven't a clue about (1) this discussion, and (2) America. I'm sick of the billowing garbage that emerges from that lump of excrement between your ears, day after fucking day, year after year. Fine, the POL site is all yours now, every last one of you piddling fucks. You can circle jerk and agree with each other all day and be happy in your childish little view of the world. And YOU, chief wanker, can kiss my all-American Fighting Man's ASS...cope with THAT, bitch.

As one person put it in regards to you
A big part of the puzzle to me was the reaction. "Uncensored" is not synonymous with "infinite patience" and if one craps on the coffee table in someone else's home often enough he'll not be invited back. When such things transpire the normal reaction isn't to go to all the neighbor's houses bitching that he's been asked to leave and blaming the dude that noticed the last steaming heap. If said neighbors didn't have a negative appraisal before the unsolicited rants they'll rapidly develop one.

I thought Mort was allright insofar as Air Corpsicle being (to me at least) an obvious joke and service as a Naval Aviator intact but embellished which I take as not reaching the level of fabrication from whole cloth. I also write off the attempt to bludgeon other members - this forum is, after all, the distilled essense of members that bludgeon back. But past history is one thing and the reaction to events is another. The personal and often vitriolic responses, ostensibly inititiated by a simple title change and perhaps whether or not invoking Farrakhan is inherently political, is striking and strongly suggestive that everybody else's appraisal was right all along.

Oh and to just finish this off, quotes from you on your flight time in the F/A18. Big difference between less than a couple of hundred hours and over 3000. You forgot what lies you had said previously and this is just the last one I am posting.......In your own words.

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And then there was the 3000 hours in the F/A18 claim. Too many lies to remember eh? And do not try to say you messed up which one you meant, the A-7 or F/A18. A pilot does not make that mistake.

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Post by TemerityB » September 12th 2019, 7:20pm

My meaningless two cents: Far from me to tell anyone how to handle anything ... but it wouldn't be all that bad to see all these clips bundled together tidily, then sent off to the Stolen Valor websites and have the whole fucking world find out about this particular "watch expert."
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Post by conjurer » September 12th 2019, 10:18pm

Mort, or Don, or misterjingles, or whatever the fuck he wants to call himself, is really a man of no account. He's a silly, stupid fellow.

Over the years, we have had here at Watchlords members who are, indeed, of account, members who I respect greatly. They joined and then, at some point, let people in about their actual situations, afraid that, sooner or later, they might be "outed." They came to realize that the other members here might think less of them if they didn't disclose their situations. I respect them for that. To this day, they are remarkable people, and valued members, and bring a fine and interesting slant on the hobby and our interactions with them.

But not Mort. He was a liar. I believed in him, and went so far as to send him PMs asking how he was doing each 9/11; I feel a fool now, but Mort is dead to me. He is a man of no account. He can say what he likes to the WIT-less; perhaps they will believe him or perhaps not. I don't care.

I have met, in real life, members here, and broken bread with them. They are the real deal.

Mort isn't. He's a sham. He is nothing.
My little brain can't even comprehend how deep that is.

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Post by bobbee » September 13th 2019, 3:09am

When your name doesn't show up on ANY rosters for USN pilot training, it's time to admit you are a fraud.
And saying he photoshopped that picture of his dad for the funerary records is a lie, as the photograph of him without pilot wings came from the funerary records.
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Post by koimaster » September 13th 2019, 12:19pm

Just in case folks could not read the original post because like a rodent, it was a bit small. the post.

The post that the rodent was responding to which was in response to one surelyouknow who had stated he left the Pentagon about 30 minutes before the aircraft hit.
Wow, what a deal you went through. I’m glad you are here and on WIT. Mr. Jingles was also there that day. He had to be rescued from a slab of cement on top of him and was in the hospital for over two years for surgery’s and learning how to walk again.
It’s amazing the small world we are in, you two might have passed each other in the halls there and now you guys are here sharing watches.
Of course the mouse had to respond and bullshit and bluster his way through it. Of course he is once again the victim of the mean old koimaster.

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Gents, I don't know why our dual-citizenship colleague (above) chose to mention my day on 9/11; after all, the leader of that "other site" repeatedly accuses me of talking too much about my experiences from that day. This was, of course, before he set out to prove that I was a complete fake in all the things I've said about myself. And he banned me so that I had no way of defending against the untruths being spread about me. He claimed that there was a master list of those hurt on 9/11, a list that "a friend" of his had access to, and -- surprise, surprise! -- my name wasn't on it. He also claimed that no one with my name received the Legion of Merit as an award for the last several years; his source? Another unnamed "friend." I could go on and on, but I think you can see a pattern that has been developed and repeated where I'm concerned: 'get him! He's a fake! And the evidence? Whole cloth.

Like you, Joel, I'll do this as quickly as I can: there is no 'master list' of people wounded on 9/11, and if there were, access to it would be severely restricted to those with a need to know, and certainly not available to some "friend" of a guy with an axe to grind. Additionally, I have opted to keep my records -- medical & otherwise -- away from release to any entity, unless I specifically allow it. Bottom line: my medical and personnel records are not accessible to anyone without my permission. But that hasn't stopped their 'peerless leader' over at that "other site." He's now been claiming that I was never in the USN at all, much less served as an aviator for 26 years. The genesis of that claim goes back to a time when I referred to the USN's Crusader aircraft as the "A-8," vice the "F-8," which is its actual nomenclature. The reason for this is simple: it was a brainfart. I flew both the A-7 and the F/A-18, and it's easy to make an error like that, especially since the F-8 was long gone by the time I strapped on my first A-7; the only USN people flying it were a couple of reserve squadrons, and they were using the virtually-unknown photo-recon version.

But this 'explanation' has gone long enough. I am who and what I have always said I am, and no number of nebulous "friends" with their fabricated BS can ever change that. Oh, and to clarify DP's post above: I was in and out of hospitals for a period of about 28 months after being injured on 9/11. I won't detail my injuries here -- why give my enemies more ammunition for new attacks? -- but I required 17 surgeries, about a third of which dealt with facial-cranial issues, and the rest were mostly orthopaedic in nature. I did have to learn how to walk again, among other things, and it was a long, very depressing time, during which I was too physically restricted to go to my friend Vince's funeral, not to mention my own father's funeral in January of '02. I finally retired from the USN in late 2007, and I was awarded the Legion of Merit, mainly, I think, because I managed to survive and come back to duty in a limited status; unfortunately, though, my flying days were over for good.

So that's it, guys. I kept quiet about my "9/11 stuff" yesterday because old "what's-his-name" at that "other site" said I talked about it way too much, which I probably did, truth to tell. ( The VA shrinks have ALL told me that I need to tell everyone about it so that it never happens again, which is what I fear most.) Of course, I never thought I was telling my story to a group of mental patients, but live & learn. 'Fearless leader' says I'm engaging in "stolen valor," a very serious, even libelous claim. But that's how far this guy's willing to go to "prove" he's right. I try not to deal with crazy people, but this is getting ridiculous...

And this post has gone on long enough, for which I'm very sorry, gents (and lady). PM me if you have any questions.
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Post by TemerityB » September 13th 2019, 7:25pm

The fact that they abide this crap at WIT only confirms what I always thought about that place in the first place - Load Gloria, daycoo and his 34,764,980 posts, the guy got scammed in the SW500 scheme only to turn around and buy more Invicters, and now, Mister Jingles. And pacer drawers, the emeritus of idiocy.

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Post by tiktok » September 13th 2019, 9:48pm

TB, Creedmoor is actually full of brilliant, twerked out minds. Don't throw the mouse under that bus, there are some great artists within the asylum walls.
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Post by koimaster » October 1st 2019, 9:39am

You should have paid attention to the lies you posted and kept them straight.


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Post by bbattle » October 1st 2019, 4:05pm

Lying about military service is SO LOW; many levels below scumbag.

And veterans can usually spot the fakers from a mile away. I've heard tales of swift, and mightily deserved, justice being metered out.

My father was in Vietnam; got drafted with a semester to go so made a deal to volunteer if they'd let him finish. So he was in for 3 years. He was in the 23rd Infantry. He carried an M-60. Also spent some time in those tunnels. He enjoyed his military career but Nixon froze pay raises so he got out. Bronze star, purple heart, assorted other medals and that combat service badge that nobody wanted to know about when he got out.

(full disclosure; I had one semester of ROTC but it was too late to contract me so the officers pushed me to go OCS. Sgt. Major Verdugo saw my flat feet and felt I'd have a hard time getting in. Then I got accepted to graduate school and that was that. Floundering around in grad. school was a waste of time; I should've gotten my butter bar.)
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Post by koimaster » October 1st 2019, 4:43pm

bbattle wrote:
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Lying about military service is SO LOW; many levels below scumbag.

And veterans can usually spot the fakers from a mile away. I've heard tales of swift, and mightily deserved, justice being metered out.

My father was in Vietnam; got drafted with a semester to go so made a deal to volunteer if they'd let him finish. So he was in for 3 years. He was in the 23rd Infantry. He carried an M-60. Also spent some time in those tunnels. He enjoyed his military career but Nixon froze pay raises so he got out. Bronze star, purple heart, assorted other medals and that combat service badge that nobody wanted to know about when he got out.

(full disclosure; I had one semester of ROTC but it was too late to contract me so the officers pushed me to go OCS. Sgt. Major Verdugo saw my flat feet and felt I'd have a hard time getting in. Then I got accepted to graduate school and that was that. Floundering around in grad. school was a waste of time; I should've gotten my butter bar.)

As far as I know, he was never a pilot in the Navy nor did he attend Annapolis nor was he "grievously injured" on 9/11. His own posts in the OP prove his lies. Who knows, maybe he was a staff member which is normally a job assigned to those who may get regular promotions but will never be given a command position. I do not really a give a shit but he keeps lying and recently took a shot at one of our members who is well respected and retired from the Army. The bullshit he pulled with John (conjurer) is beyond being a POS. If this clown was ever in the service let alone an officer, the military is in bad shape IMHO. He acts like a butt hurt little geek from the now dead watchgeeks forum.
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Post by koimaster » October 11th 2019, 10:07am

I have been asked why I do not ignore this piece of shit known as misterjingles at watchintyme aka the WG refugee site. I receive emails from a couple of folks at wit who are not WL members nor members at bestdamnwatchforum. These folks send me pictures or ask questions about claims made by the fake aviator or why I don't believe what he claims. One again he is claiming to be a graduate of the Naval Academy which he is not. What I find sad is despite proof this clown is stealing the honor of those who died or were injured on 9/11, they still think he is telling the truth.

Perhaps I should just sent all of the posts and information I have on this clown to the local press, let them know they have a real HERO and 9/11 survivor in their area and wash my hands of it. Of course I would provide them with his address, the posts and claims he has made along with rant against the late Senator John McCain who actually did attend Annapolis. The rat strikes me more of a guy who has stolen the ID of someone than a real former officer. Perhaps a cousin?



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Misterjingles was contacted again by Mr. Washington, graduate of the US Naval Academy the other day. Apparently the rat thinks he is above the rules. Funny how an alleged USN Commander acts like that. :diggn: The email below is the first between Mr. Washington and myself.

From: Craig Washington <craig.washington@usn****.com>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 8:41 AM
To: >
Subject: RE: Donald Eugene Davis Jr.

He may have attended the War College, but he didn’t attend the Naval Academy. He’s probably embarrassed I called him out.

He has not responded to me.


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Post by 3Flushes » October 11th 2019, 12:21pm

The fact that he has significantly upped the ante post-exposure with the easily debunkable, purely grandiose USNA bullshit is distinguishing alright, epidemiologically speaking.

Keeping the B.S. front and center prevents these predatory twitches from slithering back into the woodwork. It's important.
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Post by TemerityB » October 11th 2019, 5:06pm

3Flushes wrote:
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The fact that he has significantly upped the ante post-exposure with the easily debunkable, purely grandiose USNA bullshit is distinguishing alright, epidemiologically speaking.

Keeping the B.S. front and center prevents these predatory twitches from slithering back into the woodwork. It's important.
I agree.

My father was a Navy man and I'm absolutely disgusted by this jerk. The more he's exposed the better it is for about five different reasons. Jingles has not only crossed the line, but obliterated it. He knows he's been exposed, and he's at the only forum about anything that would put up with his clown show. It all tells you everything you need to know about WIT. Fuck the whole rancid lot of them, including and especially Steve. To harbor this type of person? Really?
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Post by gerdson » October 11th 2019, 10:26pm

As some here may know by now, I will always try to see or find good things in people, even in spite of obvious failure. Maybe because while not being a total wanker, I will certainly not call myself free of sins or fault. But this guy by now really leaves me lost.
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Post by conjurer » October 11th 2019, 10:42pm

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October 11th 2019, 10:26pm
As some here may know by now, I will always try to see or find good things in people, even in spite of obvious failure. Maybe because while not being a total wanker, I will certainly not call myself free of sins or fault. But this guy by now really leaves me lost.
Indeed, Herr gerdenheimer. We here at Watchlords can forgive many things. When Mort tried to pass a fake Patek as the real deal and somebody called him out on it, myself (and some fellow Lords) thought that he should be forgiven, and he was. If, a few months after joining, he posted about himself inflating his service record, we probably would have let things go.

Watchlords is like the Foreign Legion in this respect. Many of us started out as Geeks, but once we saw the light, and made our WIS bones, the past is forgotten; God loves the sinner who had come back into the fold; go and sin no more.

Alas for Mort, or Mister Jingles, for the five people on earth who follow him, he could never give up the grift. He kept up with it, made us feel like fools for sticking up for him, and now he thinks the bad, haterz WLs are out to get him.

He is a silly, little man, unworthy of the Power of the Lords.
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