The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

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The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

Post by koimaster » November 8th 2018, 9:54am

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Re: The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

Post by 3Flushes » November 8th 2018, 11:21am

IDK about cult classic- cool watch for folks who're gonna give it a beating and would rather have an analog watch or are just sick'a their G-Shocks- Perfect for XMAS for my nephew in the Navy--- great cop'ers or firefighter's watch- pop it in the Duluth Trading Co. catalog.

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Post by bedlam » November 8th 2018, 5:26pm

More than decent...quite interested actually :geek:
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Re: The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

Post by SynMike » November 8th 2018, 10:59pm

Eco Drive doesn't work for me. I have 30 watches in regular rotation. When I am not wearing them they are in drawers. It's not worth changing my habits to deal with having to keep it out in the light to keep it charged.

Also, Eco Drive batteries are expensive to change. It's convenient to not need a battery for 10-12 years. But when it does die, and it will die, replacement is expensive. The battery itself (they call it a "capacitor" to avoid perceptions that it is just a battery) costs about $30 wholesale to the repair guy. It is often soldered in place. Add service time to do the repair. Replacement is going to cost you more than if you had normal batteries swapped every 2-3 years, especially if you do it yourself.

My 10 year old Eco Drive minute repeater needs a new rechargeable battery. But the battery costs more than the value of the watch.

No more Eco Drive or other Solar powered watches for me.
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SynMike wrote:Eco Drive doesn't work for me. I have 30 watches in regular rotation. When I am not wearing them they are in drawers. It's not worth changing my habits to deal with having to keep it out in the light to keep it charged.

Also, Eco Drive batteries are expensive to change. It's convenient to not need a battery for 10-12 years. But when it does die, and it will die, replacement is expensive. The battery itself (they call it a "capacitor" to avoid perceptions that it is just a battery) costs about $30 wholesale to the repair guy. It is often soldered in place. Add service time to do the repair. Replacement is going to cost you more than if you had normal batteries swapped every 2-3 years, especially if you do it yourself.

My 10 year old Eco Drive minute repeater needs a new rechargeable battery. But the battery costs more than the value of the watch.

No more Eco Drive or other Solar powered watches for me.


I've had this issue with Eco-Drive myself. For a non-WIS who owns a single watch and wears it every day, Eco-Drive works great. Indeed, when somebody asks what's the best budget watch to buy for their non-WIS (read: normal person) spouse, I'll usually recommend a Citi with Eco-Drive. I've also heard similar stories from WISs who have owned Citis and cycled them through a rotation, and usually it ends up with the watch's capacitor dying well short of its claimed life.
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Post by Racer-X » November 8th 2018, 11:21pm

SynMike wrote:Eco Drive doesn't work for me... When I am not wearing them they are in drawers. It's not worth changing my habits to deal with having to keep it out in the light to keep it charged.

Also, Eco Drive batteries are expensive to change.


Same here, although CItizen will replace the capacitors at no charge last I checked.
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Post by conjurer » November 9th 2018, 10:23am

foghorn wrote:Running strong since being purchased at Service Merchandise c.1995. Lives by a window and has never stopped. Anything is possible!



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Well, there you go. All of my Citizens were delivered by UPS, which explains everything.
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Post by 3Flushes » November 9th 2018, 11:34am

foghorn wrote:Running strong since being purchased at Service Merchandise c.1995. Lives by a window and has never stopped. Anything is possible!



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Yeah, right. Like they still make them like that, anymore!

I wonder if there's any other anecdotal evidence out there about charge and longevity.
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Re: The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

Post by bobbee » November 9th 2018, 12:19pm

I have owned this around 8 years, sometimes I forget to leave it face up and it runs down. If I then hold it up to a light bulb or a window in daytime, it starts right up and will get a good charge in just a few hours.
It dates to 1994.




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Re: The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

Post by TemerityB » November 9th 2018, 2:37pm

foghorn wrote: Lives by a window and has never stopped.


Yep. I don't have anything quite that aged, but no problem with any of my Eco-Drives - Seiko solars, however, are another story; more landfill from Shinji Hattori, whose favorite R&B group is Gladys Knight & The Missing Pips.
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Re: The Next Cult Classic from Citizen?

Post by bobbee » November 9th 2018, 2:43pm

I have a 1980's solar LCD, when the capacitor gave up I fitted ordinary watch batteries and it worked fine.

...until last month, when I put the wrong battery in, and when tightening the case back the display went CRACK!
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