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Really cool article on Seiko Divers

Post by abduksion » November 2nd 2012, 12:02pm

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Seiko Dive Watches Classics

Since their introduction in the early 1960′s seiko dive watches have developed quite a following.
This article lists some of their dive watches that have become classics or even cult favourites.

If you have reached this page directly you can also find a primer on the history and development of Seiko Dive watches

Seiko Orange Monster

“The Monster”
SKX781K Orange Monster.[In Japan : SKX781K3]
SKX779K Black Monster.
SKZ203K Yellow Monster – Limited Edition 300 Pieces.
SKZ243K Red Monster – Limited Edition 1313 Pieces.
SKZ213K Blue Monster – Limited Production Run.

Clockwork orange. Few dive watches costing under $200 capture peoples interest and attention as much as the the Seiko “Monster”. It is one of those iconic watches considered one of the best Seiko Dive watches out there for the money.

Its burly, colorful and cool, not only that but its extremely well made, reliable and very durable. Its not surprising its so popular and has become affectionately known as the “Monster”.

The combination of case and bezel are slightly reminiscent of an old six shooter gun barrel and has a satisfying heft to it.

The crown is screw down as you’d expect on a proper dive watch and is placed at the 4′Oclock position for comfort. It has sturdy guards either side of it.

The 7S26 automatic movement is one of the most popular movements produced and has a long and venerable history with a reputation for ruggedness and reliability, one that can take a lickin’ and still keep on tickin’.

Of all Seiko dive watches the Monster is famous for its phenomenal luminosity thanks to the generous use of Seiko’s trademarked Lumibrite.

Considered an essential addition by many watch collectors.

Basic Specifications:

Size 46mm
Depth 14mm
Caliber: 7S26 Automatic
Water resistance: 200m
Price: $150
Introduced: 2001

Seiko Tuna

“The Tuna“
This Seiko Dive watch, SBBN007 got its nickname due to its similarity to a can of Tuna (when viewed from the side.)

The “Tuna” is part of the Prospex line of Seiko Dive watches which are a range of upscale watches from Seiko, and the overall build quality and specifications are a cut above the Monster and other 7S26 powered divers.

The Tuna is even bigger than the “Monster” at 48mm not including the crown and is 14mm thick. Ticking inside its stainless steel hulk is a 7C46 quartz movement made specifically for this model and extremely accurate. The battery is rated to last 5 years and theres a small engraved mark which signifies which year the battery should be changed which is a neat idea.

The crystal is heavily domed adding a nice stylistic effect to the watch and further enhancing its bold impression, this exaggerated doming pushes it beyond the protection of the bezel so care needs to be taken to avoid scratching. The Tuna uses Seiko’s propriety Hardlex crystal material which is more shatterproof than sapphire but not as scratch resistant.

Like the monster the Tuna uses Seiko’s Lumibrite, and although not quite as bright as the Monster it still has a good glow to it.

Basic Specifications:

Water resistance: 300m
Size: 48mm
Caliber : 7C46 Quartz
Price: $500 still available some places in Japan and secondhand in US/EU (New model SBBN017 approx $800 depending on exchange rate)

Seiko Samurai

“The Samurai“
SBDA-series – Titanium (Japan only)
SNM-series – Stainless Steel (International)

(SBDA005 pictured)

There have been various reasons attributed to “The Samurai’s ” nickname, including that the watch hands resemble a samurai sword…or that it came about due to photos that were initially circulated of the watch in front of a Japanese castle.

Whatever the reason, one way to easliy identify a “Samurai” is by the unique Bezel design.
The case design is more angular and less rugged in appearance than the monster and with the subtler white or black face versions could even be worn in a formal setting.

The stainless steel versions were priced much cheaper than the Ti versions and not just due to the differences in metal used but also because, unlike the Ti versions they were assembled in China.

Both the Titanium and SS versions have been discontinued, the SS first and then the Ti version in January 2008 and so it can be quite difficult to get hold of. There were slight stylistic differences between the SS and Ti versions, the SS versions don’t have crown guards for instance.
Since the Titanium version is not Durashield protected its more prone to scratches than the stainless one.

As Seiko dive watches go, the lume on the Samurai glows brightly but tends to taper off quite quickly.

Basic Specifications:

Released in 2004.
Water resistance: 200m
Diameter: 42 mm excluding crown
Thickness: 13.7 mm
Caliber: 7S25 Automatic, non-hacking

Seiko Sumo

“The Sumo“
Seiko SBDC line of dive watches.

With the “Sumo” Seiko marked its return to high grade, reasonably priced dive watches that came with a hacking, hand winding automatic movement. It represents a super price/performance ratio.

For a mechanical movement it keeps excellent time and is very sturdy. The fit and finish for a watch in this price point is extremely high and the quality is close to the more expensive Marine Master.

The generously-sized case is handsomely sculpted and features subtle contrasts between brushed and polished surfaces which adds to its appeal and is reminiscent of the Marine Master.

On its first release various nicknames were discussed, in the end the final name that stuck was “Sumo” due to its large and fat appearance.

Basic Specifications:

Diameter: 48.5 mm
Thickness: 14 mm
Caliber: 6R15B, 23 jewels
Water resistance: 300m
Price: $450

Seiko Marine Master

"The Marine Master"
Seiko SBDX 001

The Marine Master soon garnered a high reputation among Seiko dive watch enthusiasts, for many becoming the definitive Seiko dive watch.

The Marine Master is part of Seiko’s high end Professional Divers Series, those with water resistance above 200m developed for use in saturation diving.

Though a lot of people refer to the Seiko Professional Diver series as ‘Marine Masters’, the SBDX 001 is the genuine Marine Master, the only one with it written on the dial.

At 210 grams this is a hefty watch. One of the reasons for its weight is its one piece monocoque case design which increases water resistance. If weight is an issue this can be alleviated by changing the SS bracelet for the included rubber one.

The movement is the 8L35 with 26 Jewels and a 50 Hour Power reserve and accurate to within 10-15 seconds a month. This is the only seiko dive watch that uses this movement, which is also used in some Grand Seiko’s, it is also one of few that is individually hand assembled.

The crystal is domed Hardlex with anti-reflective coating.

Basic Specifications:

Diameter: 44mm
Thickness: 14mm
Water resistance: 300m
Caliber: 8L35 Automatic 26 Jewels
Price: $2000

Seiko Arnie

“The Arnie“
Seiko H558-5009

The Seiko H558-5009 was the first dive watch to feature a digital alarm chronograph with combination analog display.

Its nickname came about because it was a favourite watch of Arnold Schwarzenegger and he wore it in “Commando”(1985) and “Predator”(1987)

In order to build a watch that was rugged enough for the toughest adventures Seiko engineers tested it to -40c and up to +60c. The “Arnie” was a forerunner to the Landmaster series.

It was used on adventures to the North and South Poles as well as by an international team of explorers that climbed Everest in 1988.

With other features such as three time zones, chronograph, alarm and backlight, the “Arnie” is also a great ‘tool’ watch. These days its tricky finding one.

Basic Specifications:

Production date: March 1983.
Diameter: 46 mm (excluding crown).
Thickness: 12 mm.
Lug: 22 mm.
Price: $400-500

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Seiko Dive Watches

Seiko decided to enter into the dive watch market in the early 1960′s. The main reason for this was that creating a dive watch was considered an excellent test for Seiko engineers, dive watches having to fulfil very strict requirements.

They not only had to be water resistant to great depths but also shockproof and have powerful luminescense for underwater readability. The market for dive watches back then was relatively small and dominated by Rolex and Omega.

Seiko released their first dive watch in 1965 , the 6217, it was in production until 1968. It had an automatic movement, the 62MAS-010, and was certified to a depth of 150m and retailed for 13,000 yen (about $130).

The 6217 wasn’t a small watch for the time, although modern Seiko dive watches tend to be larger. It had a highly domed crystal that extended precariously high by modern standards and instead of sporting the now familiar wave design used on the back of modern Seiko dive watches this had a dolphin engraving aswell as a nicely signed (non-screw in) crown. The watch gained popularity and Martin Sheen can even be seen wearing a later version of it in the film Apocalypse Now.

The First Seiko Dive Watch, the 6217.

Having gained confidence from their initial effort Seiko engineers went on to release the 6215-010 model 300m diver watch just two years later in 1967.

Early Seiko dive watches.

Mov’t Cal # Production Year

6217 1965-1968
6215 1967-1968
6105 1968-1977
6306 1976-1981
6309 1976-1988
7002 1988-1996
The 1975 Professional Diver to modern day.
There then followed a long delay in the production of seiko dive watches. The Seiko engineers tasked with their development and buoyed by what they believed to be progressively successful technical developments then suffered a setback. In 1968 the Seiko head office received a letter from a professional saturation (SAT) diver that was highly critical of Seiko Dive watches.

The diver, who regularly descended to depths of 350m pointed out various faults he had discovered during his use of Seiko dive watches. He complained that the glass on them often broke due to pressure caused by Helium entering the watches.

He also pointed out that the watches were not really shockproof and stopped working due to collisions with rocks whilst diving. He ended his letter damningly stating that Seiko dive watches were just not satisfactory for use by professional divers.

Disturbed by the letter the Seiko engineers set about developing a greatly improved version, one that would exceed even ISO standards.

It took them 7 years to create the watch, but the Seiko Professional 600m diver (model 6159-022) placed them at the forefront of dive watches. The case alone yielded 20 new patents for Seiko.

Seiko’s 600m dive watch model 6159.

They made numerous major advances. Firstly, they succeeded in designing a watch that was not only highly sealed to prevent Helium penetration, but could also withstand the pressure of 600m dives. Preventing Helium penetration, by the use of rubber sealing was a first for a dive watch at this time. Previously dive watches employed Helium release valves to solve this problem.

Further features included the use for the first time of Titanium for the case construction, due to its lightness, durability and corrosion resistant properties. To this they added a ceramic finish to further increase corrosion protection. Another first for a dive watch was the use of a rubber strap, this was designed with vents and ribbing to adjust to wetsuit contractions caused by water pressure.

It was also shockproof and anti-magnetic and designed to be visible in total darkness with a minute hand specially designed to stand out to further help legibilty.
It was further immune to the build up of condensation and capable of being fully functional even after being immersed for month long periods.

This watch was the start of the professional series of seiko dive watches.
A lot of these features which were new innovations at the time are now considered standard features on many modern dive watches.

Further reading: classic seiko dive watches
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Re: Really cool article on Seiko Divers

Post by AJC » November 2nd 2012, 4:29pm

abduksion wrote:
jason_recliner wrote:Nice links. I want an Arnie!

Glad I could help, if I had a friend named Arnie I would get him an Arnie Image

I just hired this kid named philip, i was gonna give him one of my philip watches... then i says, i says "nah... fuck that shit." and ate a carne asada burrito with fresh avocado.
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Re: Really cool article on Seiko Divers

Post by abduksion » November 2nd 2012, 7:35pm

AJC wrote:
abduksion wrote:
jason_recliner wrote:Nice links. I want an Arnie!

Glad I could help, if I had a friend named Arnie I would get him an Arnie Image

I just hired this kid named philip, i was gonna give him one of my philip watches... then i says, i says "nah... fuck that shit." and ate a carne asada burrito with fresh avocado.

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Re: Really cool article on Seiko Divers

Post by conjurer » February 13th 2020, 10:51pm

AJC wrote:
November 2nd 2012, 4:29pm
abduksion wrote:
jason_recliner wrote:Nice links. I want an Arnie!
Glad I could help, if I had a friend named Arnie I would get him an Arnie Image
I just hired this kid named philip, i was gonna give him one of my philip watches... then i says, i says "nah... fuck that shit." and ate a carne asada burrito with fresh avocado.
My little brain can't even comprehend how deep that is.

--beefsupreme, commenting on his super rare Deep Blue wartche

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