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and the companies in China are all run by Chinese people there is no
such thing as a company in China owned or run by a western set of
directors IT DOES NOT EXIST there is no such thing as a westerners being
involved in actual day to day running of any sub contractor making stuff .
consider cheating and corruption as a cultural benefit and smart , as such there
is no such thing as integrity .. IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY
Westerners and western companies are fair game, and as such making money from us is why they deal with us ... ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY
Saving money by cheating westerners is part of the game , cutting corners on quality and material is how they do it ... ...ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY
Chinese companies and Asians think about today and what they can get today , saving money to make money Today they don't care about tomorrow ... ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY
western company exists in China, every company is owned by the Chinese,
the name they put on their products is not their name so cutting corners
in terms of material , machining or even the grade plastic used does
them no harm .. after all whose reputation goes in the toilet the contractor or the brand ? The cost
cutting often does not show during the warranty so in reality who gives
a fuck in the Chinese production plant saving money is the game .. its not their warranty as they don't offer one , or
their name and by then the contract is filled. QC does not test each unit and quality fade is a Chinese game .. Batch 1, all good .. Batch 2 , 80 % good .. Last Batch, your name is fucked but its too late .. No company can check 100% of packed product and no company does .
have embraced this because they have exploited the millions of Chinese
workers and they don't have the headache of suppliers, they just get the
end product delivered at cost far lower than they could if they made it
themselves .. They don't pass on the cost they just make more so every
wins .. Right .... WRONG
The end user looses, he buys something
that is not made well, its not what it seems and in fact its not even
made by the brand it pretends to be , it wont last, it might be toxic in
its construction and it might even be made out of something other than
it says it is. One thing is sure it will be cost stripped by the Chinese .
where does Doxa fit in to this .. well Doxa is owned by the Jenny
Family in Switzerland and was bought some years ago by them , they own
Walca a OEM watch manufacturer in Switzerland , that has some
manufacturing in Hong Kong ( most likely China with HK an office ) .
Walca make watches for people that put labels on product, Hugo Boss ,
Coinwatch and many others .
Is Doxa made in China ? I am a 100%
certain that it conforms to the Swiss rules of Swiss made and as such is
Swiss made .. Almost certainly some parts are made in China but I would
suggest these parts are the bracelet and not much else .
I own 2
Doxa watches both are very very well made , they are the Shark 300m and
I bought both in HK for 600 USD each they both have genuine ETA 2824
Movements in them and are finsihed inside unlike any Chinese watch I
have seen, the Chines could not care less about what you cant see , so I
am sure they are finished in Switzerland. in fact the case work is
superb and much better than a any Chinese case I have seen the fit of
the back and the machining is perfect on both of them as is the crown
and the case tube so maybe the case is made in Switzerland too . Both
were adjusted to keep time of 3 secs a day and both are great value .
Now lets look at Tag and Doxa
Aquaracer 500m . Swiss Made by law
Tag Case work ..... Poor fit and Finish, back thread bad machining almost certainly Chinese
Case tube ...... Replaced twice in warranty almost certainly due to Chinese crap steel
Bracelet ..... Pins fell out after 6 months on sporadic wear almost certainly Chinese machining and Manufacture with crap steel
Clasp ..... Rust on the inside Almost certainly Chinese crap Steel
Movement ..... SW200-1 100 % Swiss Made ( maybe with some Chinese parts )
Case Spacer ... Plastic ... Chinese for sure crap finish poor quality and cracked
Steel Quality ... Who Knows Rust and excessive wear with a black wrist after 2 hrs ...
Cost 2500 USD
Now Doxa Swiss made by law
Case work ... Superb almost certainly Swiss
Case Tube .. Like butter and perfect Fit certainly Swiss
Bracelet ... Well made but almost certainly Chinese
Clasp ... No rust yet but part of bracelet so Chinese
Movement .. ETA 2824 100% Swiss
Case Spacer .. Perfect fit perfect finish and good quality and good quality steel .. almost certainly Swiss
Steel Quality ... 316L
Cost 600 USD
Doxa make good watches and I am sure they do this is Switzerland along with Tag, at least to the rules of the Swiss Federation , China makes shit and Doxa don't use this shit in their watch of that I am sure .. Tag do, of that I am sure too , but both are Swiss Made and Tag is three times more money . I know which one I like best .
Doxa sell in to the USA and they sell a watch the rest of the world cant buy , I have no idea if it is good or not, but I think the Jenny family would not have bought Doxa to destroy the name by using inferior Chinese workmanship or materials. They know that companies that want cheap wont care about quality so they have Chinese factories making watches for other brands where cost is king , after all walca was where they made their money so in this regard it makes sense .
The family bought Doxa to have a brand because like the Chinese contractors that make shit who has heard of walca .. I like how Doxa is made and I know the Chinese could not care less about the inside or what you cant see Doxa do care, that's not Chinese , I know the Chinese use shit steel Doxa do not , that's not Chinese and I know Chinese fit and finish is never that good, Doxa have great fit and finish, that's not Chinese either .
No matter what you spec the Chinese will sell you shit , so don't give me grades of quality the game for the Chinese is cost cutting and getting as much as they can out of each deal they cant help it, they will tell you its 316L and it might just be but the lowest grade they can get, they will tell you its high grade aluminum .. yeah with lead in it so they get more for the weight I know its been done to me ( they got 3 USD more a ton ). They will give spec it can never meet , the list goes on and on