A cool connection between the HePing and Huacheng, the case maker

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A cool connection between the HePing and Huacheng, the case maker

Post by AlbertaTime » September 3rd 2023, 9:52pm

Regarding my earlier post about the "bird dial" HePing watch: Eric Heise had posted a case back photo of a 1953 Chinese "Huacheng" watch that had a very similar dove design.

That aroused a suspicion that I confirmed with Joel and the group yesterday.

Huacheng was a large case maker that sold watches housing Swiss movements prior to China establishing its own movement building industry. Huacheng was also among the roughly 60 enterprises that were tasked with cooperating to early domestic watches in Shanghai.

That would explain the similarity between the doves, but also raise the possibility--but not certainty--that the artist on both was the same. I say not certainty because there were other watches of that era that had hand painted logos and designs on the dials where the artists hired all produced a very similar but not identical product.

Still, a very cool connection. Thanks, Eric!
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Re: A cool connection between the HePing and Huacheng, the case maker

Post by AlbertaTime » September 4th 2023, 5:39pm

bbattle wrote:
September 4th 2023, 4:11pm
What does the dove symbolize in China?
Peace, same as here. The Chinese word for Peace is HePing, and where I live is called HePing He, Peace River.
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Re: A cool connection between the HePing and Huacheng, the case maker

Post by AlbertaTime » September 4th 2023, 6:03pm

3Flushes wrote:
September 4th 2023, 5:06pm
I'd never known Chinese manufacturers used Swiss movements prior to developing their own. Any examples in existence that you know of?
They're still found at Chinese street markets, and the older sellers will still sometimes have them.

Although Huacheng 華城 was an actual watch casing company that cased Swiss watches, Chinese cased watches are known generically in China as Huacheng, somewhat the same way as all tissues can be referred to as kleenex.

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/a-hu ... nt.371408/

http://micmicmor.blogspot.com/2007/03/hua-cheng.html
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