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Post by 3Flushes » January 3rd 2024, 7:48pm

While some on the list certainly engaged in deviant and unlawful behavior with trafficked victims, I suspect that most of those folks did not.

Sexual abusers of children and adolescents are particularly good at shielding their activities from their friends, business associates, and families, operating within highly cloistered networks.

Those named on the list unaware of Epstein's disgusting crimes, absent absolute evidence to the contrary, will be under an irrefutable cloud of suspicion nonetheless.

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Post by jason_recliner » January 3rd 2024, 8:19pm

3Flushes wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 7:48pm
While some on the list certainly engaged in deviant and unlawful behavior with trafficked victims, I suspect that most of those folks did not.

Sexual abusers of children and adolescents are particularly good at shielding their activities from their friends, business associates, and families, operating within highly cloistered networks.

Those named on the list unaware of Epstein's disgusting crimes, absent absolute evidence to the contrary, will be under an irrefutable cloud of suspicion nonetheless.

Careful who your friends are.
If anybody spent time on his island, or any time at all with him after his 2009 conviction on child abuse charges, they knew what type of person he was.

Here ya go:

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2024/01/04/F ... uments.pdf
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Re: Epstein/Maxwell Document Release

Post by 3Flushes » January 3rd 2024, 8:35pm

jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 8:19pm
3Flushes wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 7:48pm
While some on the list certainly engaged in deviant and unlawful behavior with trafficked victims, I suspect that most of those folks did not.

Sexual abusers of children and adolescents are particularly good at shielding their activities from their friends, business associates, and families, operating within highly cloistered networks.

Those named on the list unaware of Epstein's disgusting crimes, absent absolute evidence to the contrary, will be under an irrefutable cloud of suspicion nonetheless.

Careful who your friends are.
If anybody spent time on his island, or any time at all with him after his 2009 conviction on child abuse charges, they knew what type of person he was.

Here ya go:

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2024/01/04/F ... uments.pdf
Indeed, and perhaps should have known better, despite whatever BS Epstein laid out about it - the victim lied about their age, etc etc - and while this adds to the likelihood all will be suspected, their plausible deniability tarnished by what they knew or should have known about Epstein. Such knowledge doesn't make them predators and most of Epstein's friends and associates, I believe were not, evidenced particularly by being absent accusers. We'll see what accusations may be yet to surface.

Again, careful who your friends are.
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Post by conjurer » January 3rd 2024, 8:39pm

I've been monitoring this tonight on CNN, and already, two former president's names were mentioned. I would urge all members to be reminded of the forum rules regarding political discussions anywhere but in the Policy Room subforum.

As long as politics stay out of here, have at it. I still think that Carrot Top is going to get indicted.
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Post by Mark1 » January 3rd 2024, 9:12pm

And already the apologists appear-amazing. Who saw that coming? Cue up two members here, you know who they are. They will certainly set us rubes straight.
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Post by jason_recliner » January 3rd 2024, 9:17pm

3Flushes wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 8:35pm
jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 8:19pm
3Flushes wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 7:48pm
While some on the list certainly engaged in deviant and unlawful behavior with trafficked victims, I suspect that most of those folks did not.

Sexual abusers of children and adolescents are particularly good at shielding their activities from their friends, business associates, and families, operating within highly cloistered networks.

Those named on the list unaware of Epstein's disgusting crimes, absent absolute evidence to the contrary, will be under an irrefutable cloud of suspicion nonetheless.

Careful who your friends are.
If anybody spent time on his island, or any time at all with him after his 2009 conviction on child abuse charges, they knew what type of person he was.

Here ya go:

https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2024/01/04/F ... uments.pdf
Indeed, and perhaps should have known better, despite whatever BS Epstein laid out about it - the victim lied about their age, etc etc - and while this adds to the likelihood all will be suspected, their plausible deniability tarnished by what they knew or should have known about Epstein. Such knowledge doesn't make them predators and most of Epstein's friends and associates, I believe were not, evidenced particularly by being absent accusers. We'll see what accusations may be yet to surface.

Again, careful who your friends are.
Not necessarily abusers, although some of them were (Prince Andrew, Brunel, Dershowitz), but makes their ethics and moral judgement very fucking disgusting. If even my best mate was convicted for child abuse, I would cut that tie. I've known the guy since I was 10 but that would be it. Line crossed. Gone. Finished. Many, perhaps most, people would do the same. So why, after they knew, did they maintain relationships with Epstein and Maxwell? Fair enough if they don't want to now be associated with child abuse and abusers but, if so, they have some explaining to do.

The first example I've come across, David Copperfield. He asked Joanna S whether she knew Epstein was paying girls to find other girls. While he was having dinner at Epstein's house! You suspect/have heard that, but you still go round for dinner? What. The. Fuck. Unless it was a specifically a fact-finding mission, with a view to never seeing Epstein again, that is fucking deplorable, disgusting behaviour. Copperfield doesn't want to be forever assocaited with child abuse an abusers? I suggest he explains what was going on. Or not, and be perceived as lowlife scum. Doesn't bother me!
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Post by jason_recliner » January 3rd 2024, 9:21pm

conjurer wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 8:39pm
I've been monitoring this tonight on CNN, and already, two former president's names were mentioned. I would urge all members to be reminded of the forum rules regarding political discussions anywhere but in the Policy Room subforum.

As long as politics stay out of here, have at it. I still think that Carrot Top is going to get indicted.
Sorry Dear leader John but I have to question this approach. This is a crime, a series of most serious crimes actually, and if political figures committed crimes, and/or are reasonably accused of doing so, that should be open for discussion. That's not a political discussion, that's a criminal discussion. And surely even the most partisan of simpletons wouldn't defend a child abuser because the abuser is a member of their preferred party. Furthermore, Clinton and Trump being sleazy adulterers (no evidence that Trump abused children, Clinton might be more suspect but nothing concrete AFAIK) doesn't have any bearing on other Democrats or Republicans, or the parties.
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Post by Mark1 » January 3rd 2024, 9:38pm

jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 9:22pm
Mark1 wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 9:12pm
And already the apologists appear-amazing.
Any links please?
We all know who they are. At least two members of this forum, one is identified the other will appear shortly.
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Post by jason_recliner » January 3rd 2024, 9:42pm

Mark1 wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 9:38pm
jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 9:22pm
Mark1 wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 9:12pm
And already the apologists appear-amazing.
Any links please?
We all know who they are. At least two members of this forum, one is identified the other will appear shortly.
Aaaah, gotcha. Though you were referring to news stories / twitter / etc.
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Post by smellody » January 3rd 2024, 11:17pm

jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 10:52pm
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Phew. Thankful my name didn't show up.
I did a search for _. It appears 1,792 times. I'm in a lot of trouble.
Shit. Sorry buddy. 😞
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Post by conjurer » January 3rd 2024, 11:20pm

I have no doubt that some of the stupid fucks appearing in these documents are probably some sort of pederasts; but, as Alain did when he ran this joint, no politics. I understand underscore's point regarding Trump and Clinton, but we will not devolve to that.

I was ready to shut down the Policy Room when me and Dr. Smells took over, but several well-respected members talked us out of it.

Any hint of politics we'll either shut this down or move it to the Policy Room.
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Post by conjurer » January 3rd 2024, 11:21pm

smellody wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 11:17pm
jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 10:52pm
smellody wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 10:15pm
Phew. Thankful my name didn't show up.
I did a search for _. It appears 1,792 times. I'm in a lot of trouble.
Shit. Sorry buddy. 😞
Yikes. What sort of shit are you looking at in Australia??
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Post by jason_recliner » January 3rd 2024, 11:30pm

conjurer wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 11:21pm
smellody wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 11:17pm
jason_recliner wrote:
January 3rd 2024, 10:52pm


I did a search for _. It appears 1,792 times. I'm in a lot of trouble.
Shit. Sorry buddy. 😞
Yikes. What sort of shit are you looking at in Australia??
He was just managing my investment property, I swear! He said I'd be able to increase my deductions if we ran an international model scouting agency / massage parlour / Mossad regional bureau out of the building. I was only following his financial advice!
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Re: Epstein/Maxwell Document Release

Post by gerdson » January 4th 2024, 12:11pm

That's a lot of pages... my span of attention was not long enough to scroll downvto whatever comprehensive list the document may contain.
That being said, and no - I have not been following tjis in detail - who would be listed? I mean, someone delivering pizza to one of his "pool parties"? Or what kind of relationship justifies to be on the list?
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