Watchlords

This is all true:

A while back, Invicter - you've heard of 'em, they sell Captain America watches at TJ Maxx - started a new program called its "Invincible Guarantee." Well, it's not really a guarantee (given their track record, fans are lucky when the shiny metal-like things don't disintegrate upon lifting them out of their piss-yellow boxes), it's this: From what I can gather, if you buy a shiny, new, say, Popeye Pro Diver (hey, look, a guy pretending to be a sky king!) and anytime within 5 years you can trade the watch back to them and receive a watch of the same value, or trade up for a more expensive one. You're apparently doing this straight through IWG, whichmean I bet you're trading up to full MSRP ... but hey, heirlooms are heirlooms, right?

Here's the scoop:
https://invincibleguarantee.com/#/

One thing I noticed: There's a video that "explains" the process on the website, and guess who's the narrator?

You guessed it: Wiley Lowe. No kidding. Nothing like a watch expert non-expert to describe a non-guarantee. Just click the link on the webpage.

And remember - the guarantee is extra - here's how much extra:

So, for a fee, when the hands on your Invicter fall off, you can trade it in on another Invicter, whose hands are going to fall off??

Right about now Daniel Mink is slapping himself in the middle of his forehead.

Jeebus. And Laylow will make a shit ton of money off the dumbass minions who “invest” in this “opportunity.”

I hope they don’t go broke honoring this limited-time special-opportunity near-guarantee for such a sensationally low low extra-cost per watch.

So for a wartch selling for $50 - $149.99; that actually costs $6, I would pay $38 (only good for 5 years) to trade in my piece of crap for another piece of crap worth $6 OR use it as a trade up for one that actually costs $8.
I guess some Cheeto-stained, t-shirt wearing, knuckle dragger, mouth breather that has at least 50 Invicter wartches would deem that a fantastic value.

Absolutely inspired! There must be a grifter brain trust somewhere that comes up with these schemes.

DocKlock wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 5:32am

So for a wartch selling for $50 - $149.99; that actually costs $6, I would pay $38 (only good for 5 years) to trade in my piece of crap for another piece of crap worth $6 OR use it as a trade up for one that actually costs $8.

Nailed it ^ !

Watches for thinkers.

3Flushes wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 10:41am

Watches for thinkers.

Yeah, you guys see all this for what it is. And to add Wiley Lowe's dulcet tone to the sales pitch only brings home this "deal" for exactly the South Florida con is all truly appears to be.

Interesting, I realize the dislike (hate) for Invicta here. Nevertheless, other than watches way more expensive, who guarantees their watches over a one or two year time frame? Rolex gives a 5 year warranty but it doesn't include normal wear and tear among other things. Plus, look how much you're spending.

Timex only gives a year. So if you spent $500 or up on a Invicta watch, I don't know who would do such a thing. However it would behoove one to purchase the extra warranty IMHO. If these watches are such pieces of crap as many say. At least you can get your $500 dollar piece of crap repaired, fixed or replaced.

Furthermore, with these so-called premium watch warranties you better read the fine print because everything isn't covered. Here is a list of WIS favorites and their warranty length. Remember, read what's covered and not.

https://www.gnomonwatches.com/pages/warranty-policy

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:04pm

Interesting, I realize the dislike (hate) for Invicta here. Nevertheless, other than watches way more expensive, who guarantees their watches over a one or two year time frame? Rolex gives a 5 year warranty but it doesn't include normal wear and tear among other things. Plus, look how much you're spending.

Timex only gives a year. So if you spent $500 or up on a Invicta watch, I don't know who would do such a thing. However it would behoove one to purchase the extra warranty IMHO. If these watches are such pieces of crap as many say. At least you can get your $500 dollar piece of crap repaired, fixed or replaced.

Furthermore, with these so-called premium watch warranties you better read the fine print because everything isn't covered. Here is a list of WIS favorites and their warranty length. Remember, read what's covered and not.

https://www.gnomonwatches.com/pages/warranty-policy

You do realize that many here have invicta watches right? Invicta is disliked because of their continued lies and deceptions. A invicta friendly forum had one of their ardent invicta fans open a watch up which was supposed to have a Valjoux 7750 only to be surprised that it was an SW500, not the same movement despite the lies told by the ownership of Invicta watch group (which is a marketing company). The original Invicta watch company is in no way related to the current rendition. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=4344

If you like the watches you purchase then enjoy them. Not everyone agrees with certain brands. The folks here will troll you as long as you keep pushing any brand too hard. We have a long time member here who is in the diplomatic corp who wears nothing but Invicta. No one cares unless of course it is a 63mm saucer plate.

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:04pm

Interesting, I realize the dislike (hate) for Invicta here. Nevertheless, other than watches way more expensive, who guarantees their watches over a one or two year time frame? Rolex gives a 5 year warranty but it doesn't include normal wear and tear among other things. Plus, look how much you're spending.

Timex only gives a year. So if you spent $500 or up on a Invicta watch, I don't know who would do such a thing. However it would behoove one to purchase the extra warranty IMHO. If these watches are such pieces of crap as many say. At least you can get your $500 dollar piece of crap repaired, fixed or replaced.

Furthermore, with these so-called premium watch warranties you better read the fine print because everything isn't covered. Here is a list of WIS favorites and their warranty length. Remember, read what's covered and not.

https://www.gnomonwatches.com/pages/warranty-policy

Scorp, what koi has listed here is just the fingernail of the retail malfeasance that Invicta has been proven guilty of during the past decade or so. Cripes, here's what I can think of right off the top of my head:

- Watches with "Grade A Mother Of Pearl" (there's no such thing) that weren't MOP
- Watches sold on ShopNBC hyped as "diamonds! diamonds! diamonds!" that turned out to be crystals
- Watches heavily hyped on TV as having Dubois-Depraz chrono modules crapped out by the score; TV shills on another forum claim it was DD's fault. DD, in fact, had never heard of Invicta; whoppers and tall tales ensued - more than a few watch buyers were left with unworking $1,000 hunks of junk
- Sold watches with MOP that on TV were claimed to have been harvested in some magical lake in China
- Sold watches with meteor dials claiming to be the only brand other than Rolex that did it, when it reality they were as common as Timex, sold by at least three dozen brands
- Sold watches on TV claiming to be packed with Valoux 7750 chronos - but were packed with Sellita SW500s - nice movement, but not what they were paying for, not in the least
- And on and on. Yet, here's the biggest thing about IWG, at least to me:

- Sold SCORES of watches that Invicta simply could not fix, would not fix, or took forever to be returned to customers - many times with flaws that weren't on the watches before they were shipped by the duped, ripped-off consumers. Particularlly galling are their integrated rubber straps, which tear even when not being worn and either can't be replaced or cost more than the actual watches do when they are ordered.

I realize that Invicta makes some Pro Divers (which I still think are cased by Seiko to begin with) that actually run and aren't sized like hubcaps for Mack Trucks, which is fine. I still have a couple of 'em collecting dust in my sock drawer (wanna buy 'em?). That factor doesn't make up or the fact that most of their product line, IMHO, looks like they are designed either for gorillas or wrestling fans - these are the most tasteless, garish watches on this mortal coil.

I'll give you the benfit of the doubt that you might not have known of Invicta's truly seedy CS and QC past. However, if you come to these parts expect standing ovations for your SAN III, you moseyed into the wrong saloon, pardner. I'll take it a step further: I think Invicta is a borderline criminal enterprise and the worst thing to ever happen to the watch hobby - I think of the people who bought their shit, got ripped off, and then either never bought another watch or switched to an iWatch. Proof's in the pudding: Invicta actually manufactures NOTHING - all their watches are farmed out to be assembled by other companies. They are to watches what the 1960s TV Popeye cartoons are to the Max Fleisher classics: They're just commerce, man.

Heck, go to Amazon, read the reviews from person after person who ordered what they thought was prime steak and ended up with Boca Burgers. There's no excuse for Invicta. None. Ask any of us here, we'll be happy to recant ripoff after lie after false claim after goofy clown watch.

One last thing: The subject at hand here is Invicta; it doesn't matter what other companies do. Nice attempt at a deflection. I just dropped some coin on an actual, new Rolex, but I'm pretty damn sure it won't disintegrate as it sits in its watch box.

TemerityB wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:50pm

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:04pm

Interesting, I realize the dislike (hate) for Invicta here. Nevertheless, other than watches way more expensive, who guarantees their watches over a one or two year time frame? Rolex gives a 5 year warranty but it doesn't include normal wear and tear among other things. Plus, look how much you're spending.

Timex only gives a year. So if you spent $500 or up on a Invicta watch, I don't know who would do such a thing. However it would behoove one to purchase the extra warranty IMHO. If these watches are such pieces of crap as many say. At least you can get your $500 dollar piece of crap repaired, fixed or replaced.

Furthermore, with these so-called premium watch warranties you better read the fine print because everything isn't covered. Here is a list of WIS favorites and their warranty length. Remember, read what's covered and not.

https://www.gnomonwatches.com/pages/warranty-policy

Scorp, what koi has listed here is just the fingernail of the retail malfeasance that Invicta has been proven guilty of during the past decade or so. Cripes, here's what I can think of right off the top of my head:

- Watches with "Grade A Mother Of Pearl" (there's no such thing) that weren't MOP
- Watches sold on ShopNBC hyped as "diamonds! diamonds! diamonds!" that turned out to be crystals
- Watches heavily hyped on TV as having Dubois-Depraz chrono modules crapped out by the score; TV shills on another forum claim it was DD's fault. DD, in fact, had never heard of Invicta; whoppers and tall tales ensued - more than a few watch buyers were left with unworking $1,000 hunks of junk
- Sold watches with MOP that on TV were claimed to have been harvested in some magical lake in China
- Sold watches with meteor dials claiming to be the only brand other than Rolex that did it, when it reality they were as common as Timex, sold by at least three dozen brands
- Sold watches on TV claiming to be packed with Valoux 7750 chronos - but were packed with Sellita SW500s - nice movement, but not what they were paying for, not in the least
- And on and on. Yet, here's the biggest thing about IWG, at least to me:

- Sold SCORES of watches that Invicta simply could not fix, would not fix, or took forever to be returns to customers - many times with flaws that weren't on the watches before they were shipped by the duped, ripped-off consumers. Particularlly galling are their integrated rubber straps, which tear even when not being worn and either can't be replaced or cost more than the actual watches do when they are ordered.

I realize that Invicta makes some Pro Divers (which I still think are cased by Seiko to begin with) that actually run and aren't sized like hubcaps for Mack Trucks, which is fine. I still have a couple of 'em collecting dust in my sock drawer (wanna buy 'em?). That factor doesn't make up or the fact that most of their product line, IMHO, looks like they designed either for gorillas or wrestling fans - these are the most tasteless, garish watches on this mortal coil.

I'll give you the benfit of the doubt that you might not have known of Invicta's truly seedy CS and QC past. However, if you come to these parts expect standing ovations for your SAN III, you moseyed into the wrong saloon, pardner. I'll take it a step further: I think Invicta is a borderline criminal enterprise and the worst thing to ever happen to the watch hobby - I think of the people who bought their shit, got ripped off, and then either never bought another watch or switched to an iWatch.

Heck, go to Amazon, read the reviews from person after person who ordered what they thought was steak and ended up with Boca Burgers. There's no excuse for Invicta. None. Ask any of us here, we'll be happy to recant ripoff after lie after false claim after goofy clown watch.

Again, I'm not suggesting you're wrong. Just that if you bought said watch and found those problems. Plus, didn't have a warranty when things went wrong. Well you know what the sentiment would be! I was adding my two cents that the warranty is probably a good idea.

Especially, with the problems you guys are mentioning.

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:57pm

Again, I'm not suggesting you're wrong. Just that if you bought said watch and found those problems. Plus, didn't have a warranty when things went wrong. Well you know what the sentiment would be! I was adding my two cents that the warranty is probably a good idea.

Especially, with the problems you guys are mentioning.

Well, first off, no watch company warranties straps, crystals, wear and tear, etc, so that argument is moot. It's the watch itself in most cases.

Secondly - did you see the prices of those warranties that aren't really warranties? That's being a sucker right there. Nothing like running back and forth to the Post Office four times. And you will if you drink from this well too often. Hey - each to their own. All we can do is present stone cold facts; if you chose to ignore 'em, well, enjoy your watches that have no actual real world value. As koi, said, it's everyone's choice.

I appreciate the information! True, it's everyone's choice. I've never purchased a warranty for any of mine.
Besides, I don't buy Invicta's over $200 so maybe that's why I haven't ran into the problems. All mine have a NH35A so it's easy enough to fix or change the movement if need be.

Again, I just think if they're going to replace or repair the watch it may beneficial to buy the "warranty". The price is subjective IMO, if you know you're hard on watches why not. If you feel the watch is crap from the beginning, why even bother purchasing it. JMHO and we all know what opinions are like.

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 2:38pm

I appreciate the information! True, it's everyone's choice. I've never purchased a warranty for any of mine.
Besides, I don't buy Invicta's over $200 so maybe that's why I haven't ran into the problems. All mine have a NH35A so it's easy enough to fix or change the movement if need be.

Again, I just think if they're going to replace or repair the watch it may beneficial to buy the "warranty". The price is subjective IMO, if you know you're hard on watches why not. If you feel the watch is crap from the beginning, why even bother purchasing it. JMHO and we all know what opinions are like.

Excellent summation, T-B.

As far as this scorpio assclown, just a little troll running about. Not worth our time.

biglove wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 2:50pm

Excellent summation, T-B.

As far as this scorpio assclown, just a little troll running about. Not worth our time.

So I'm a troll because I have my own opinion? Talk about hyperbole! What an idiotic statement.

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:04pm

However it would behoove one to purchase the extra warranty IMHO. If these watches are such pieces of crap as many say. At least you can get your $500 dollar piece of crap repaired, fixed or replaced.

Furthermore, with these so-called premium watch warranties you better read the fine print because everything isn't covered.

You’re missing the fundamental point: educated consumers understand there is ZERO chance of Invicta honoring ANY kind of warranty claim.

I’ve never heard of hands falling off a Rolex - or even a Seiko for that matter. Invicta? Yeah, shit happens... but the real atrocity is how they jack around the consumer before dumping their QC issue back onto their gullible laps.

Seiko? As a manufacturer has no credibility issues. Rolex is obviously one of several gold standards. They don’t offer such a ridiculous option - because they stand behind their product. Invicta does not. They make watches of varying quality. They are not all garbage but with them, more than any other, it is a coin toss... see what shows up. If you have a problem? Take it to your damn watch maker for repairs... Send it to Invicta and you will more keenly understand why Frank Zappa wrote a song about the death of service culture...

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 2:55pm

biglove wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 2:50pm

Excellent summation, T-B.

As far as this scorpio assclown, just a little troll running about. Not worth our time.

So I'm a troll because I have my own opinion? Talk about hyperbole! What an idiotic statement.

No, everyone is entitled to their opinion here. Some may not agree with it but stick to your guns. Many members here came from the now dead forum called watchgeeks aka shill city. Many of those same members owned invictas and other tv watches (sold via informercial). They are giving you a hard time. You can put them on ignore if you choose or respond (the trolling of you will continue) or just ignore them in general. The only person on this forum who cannot ignore people is me.

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:04pm

So if you spent $500 or up on a Invicta watch, I don't know who would do such a thing. However it would behoove one to purchase the extra warranty IMHO. At least you can get your $500 dollar piece of crap repaired, fixed or replaced.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TemerityB wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 12:50pm

That factor doesn't make up or the fact that most of their product line, IMHO, looks like they are designed either for gorillas or wrestling fans

You forgot Monster Truck racing............. just wanted to point that out

koimaster wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 3:11pm

Scorpion 1031 wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 2:55pm

biglove wrote: ↑

July 8th 2020, 2:50pm

Excellent summation, T-B.

As far as this scorpio assclown, just a little troll running about. Not worth our time.

So I'm a troll because I have my own opinion? Talk about hyperbole! What an idiotic statement.

No, everyone is entitled to their opinion here. Some may not agree with it but stick to your guns. Many members here came from the now dead forum called watchgeeks aka shill city. Many of those same members owned invictas and other tv watches (sold via informercial). They are giving you a hard time. You can put them on ignore if you choose or respond (the trolling of you will continue) or just ignore them in general. The only person on this forum who cannot ignore people is me.

Oh, I get it. Plus I'm the new guy. Trust me I'm not taking it personal and I dish it as well as I can take it.

New invicta model that wiley the coyote was shilling.

How's the lume on that Special Kitty????