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Mido All Dial

Post by Watch Noob » December 29th 2020, 1:38pm

I recently got this one back out and finally cleaned up the splotchy AR coating on the outside of the crystal? Who puts AR on the outside of the crystal? Anyway, love this watch and will get some more wrist time. I know I bought this or traded for this watch with someone on this forum. Was this another Alain special?

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Post by MKTheVintageBloke » December 29th 2020, 2:36pm

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Who puts AR on the outside of the crystal?
The Swatch Group does. Not always, though. If I remember correctly, they use AR coating on both sides in Omegas, not sure if that’s the standard at Mido’s tier of their brands. For whatever reason, microbrands tend to be more open about such specs as the ARC on the crystal, catalogues (and enclosed tech spec lists) of the established brands are void of that.
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Re: Mido All Dial

Post by Watch Noob » December 29th 2020, 2:51pm

MKTheVintageBloke wrote:
December 29th 2020, 2:36pm
Watch Noob wrote:
December 29th 2020, 1:38pm
Who puts AR on the outside of the crystal?
The Swatch Group does. Not always, though. If I remember correctly, they use AR coating on both sides in Omegas, not sure if that’s the standard at Mido’s tier of their brands. For whatever reason, microbrands tend to be more open about such specs as the ARC on the crystal, catalogues (and enclosed tech spec lists) of the established brands are void of that.

Thanks MK. I'm not sure if there's AR on the inside of the crystal. I thought I was going to just replace the crystal myself, but I tried the Polywatch and low speed dremel method to remove the rest of the AR coating and it worked like a charm. No need now to replace the crystal.
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Post by MKTheVintageBloke » December 29th 2020, 2:55pm

I’m pretty sure there is ARC on the inside as well. It’s either on the inside only or on both sides. The latter provides a nice effect, but the outer layer either gathers scratches or wears off at some point. Or both.
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Post by 3Flushes » December 29th 2020, 3:19pm

Inside or out is of little consequence if they use the good stuff. The cheap stuff is applied by a PVD spray tan type of process. The good stuff is baked on and with miniomal reason in care won't rub off like on noobs watch.

The spray tan is usually applied outside as it is less effective once light has refracted through the crystal. On occasion both sides will get coated. With the better process it seems like both sides are coated more often than not.

For those of you who wear eyeglasses, the same holds true. At places like COSTCO where the ARC is included, it's the spray type- opticals will offer you the choice- the baked on stuff is $50-$100.

I don't bother with the good stuff except for Rx sunglasses. I just got a pair of polarized, progressive, full mirrored, sunglasses with the baked on ARC on the back of the lenses. Given the price of those fuckers it's worth having the shit that lasts especially with the extra frequent washing.
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Post by Watch Noob » December 29th 2020, 3:33pm

3Flushes wrote:
December 29th 2020, 3:19pm
Inside or out is of little consequence if they use the good stuff. The cheap stuff is applied by a PVD spray tan type of process. The good stuff is baked on and with miniomal reason in care won't rub off like on noobs watch.

The spray tan is usually applied outside as it is less effective once light has refracted through the crystal. On occasion both sides will get coated. With the better process it seems like both sides are coated more often than not.

For those of you who wear eyeglasses, the same holds true. At places like COSTCO where the ARC is included, it's the spray type- opticals will offer you the choice- the baked on stuff is $50-$100.

I don't bother with the good stuff except for Rx sunglasses. I just got a pair of polarized, progressive, full mirrored, sunglasses with the baked on ARC on the back of the lenses. Given the price of those fuckers it's worth having the shit that lasts especially with the extra frequent washing.
Good to know the difference, I hadn't realized the methods of application. I just assumed the coating was the coating. Thanks
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Post by bedlam » December 29th 2020, 5:31pm

Sinn uses external AR too. And its shit.
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Post by Racer-X » December 29th 2020, 5:55pm

koimaster wrote:
December 29th 2020, 3:08pm
I had a cream dial version of that watch. May have been db cooper who owned seval mido watches.
DB had a gorgeous Baroncelli PR.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36314&p=374559#p374559

I like MIDO. The All Dial is hot. Outside AR is something I have avoided, but may try the Polywatch trick now, thanks.
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Post by Watch Noob » December 29th 2020, 7:50pm

Racer-X wrote:
December 29th 2020, 5:55pm
koimaster wrote:
December 29th 2020, 3:08pm
I had a cream dial version of that watch. May have been db cooper who owned seval mido watches.
DB had a gorgeous Baroncelli PR.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36314&p=374559#p374559

I like MIDO. The All Dial is hot. Outside AR is something I have avoided, but may try the Polywatch trick now, thanks.

Just make sure if you use a Dremel it's on the lowest speed and you only use it for 20-30 seconds and take a break for 30 seconds before starting again. This way you make sure the crystal doesn't heat up. Worked like a charm and took all of about 5 minutes work.
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Post by biglove » December 29th 2020, 9:07pm

Damasko standard AR is inner and outer. Breitling does the same. Omega, too.
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Re: Mido All Dial

Post by biglove » December 29th 2020, 9:10pm

3Flushes wrote:
December 29th 2020, 3:19pm
Inside or out is of little consequence if they use the good stuff. The cheap stuff is applied by a PVD spray tan type of process. The good stuff is baked on and with miniomal reason in care won't rub off like on noobs watch.

The spray tan is usually applied outside as it is less effective once light has refracted through the crystal. On occasion both sides will get coated. With the better process it seems like both sides are coated more often than not.

For those of you who wear eyeglasses, the same holds true. At places like COSTCO where the ARC is included, it's the spray type- opticals will offer you the choice- the baked on stuff is $50-$100.

I don't bother with the good stuff except for Rx sunglasses. I just got a pair of polarized, progressive, full mirrored, sunglasses with the baked on ARC on the back of the lenses. Given the price of those fuckers it's worth having the shit that lasts especially with the extra frequent washing.
Yep. All my Rx eyeglasses are HOYA poly ultrathin with AR and antiscratch and are damn near bulletproof. But for $1K, they better be.
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