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Post by Guest » August 31st 2010, 2:20pm

A little more Info from SloMo on this. When the Prof looked at it under a micro scope, the face has 3 repeating patterns of glitter that are 2 dementional, in geodesic design, triangle, square, and round- these are the glittery pieces that reflect light.....SloMo can correct me if I translated this incorrectly.........so, not only is it NOT stone, it is in fact totally and cheaply MAN MADE BULLSHIT.
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GEEKNOMO wrote:If banned, you should of gotten the dreaded notice pop up.......maybe the site/server is overloading with "oh no not another fuck up! run! run for you lives! un plug the damn upload!!! hide! hide!""


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Post by Ditchdoc » August 31st 2010, 3:16pm

OUTSTANDING GNM!!!!

...and the hits just keep on playing for Invicta. Of course JS and MD will just claim they just sell the watches and say what they're told. GET A CLUE GUYS!!! You can't claim "no resp[onsibility " after llie after lie is revealed. If so, you are the dumbest people to ever shit between two shoes.

Sadly, there will still be many that will refuse to wake up.
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And yes here we go again. If you like it, like it, stop trying to disprove it. Now if, and I stress if, eyal lied that isn't right, but it could have been a simple misunderstanding or an explanation needed. Either way I could care less, unless he lied of course and only he knows that answer

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Re: glass=sandstone.........Im vendicated.........

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Invicta sandstone dial is not natural sandstone.

A friend sent me a dial, movement and caseback from a Blue sandstone Invicta Model number 0050 and asked if I could have it examined by an expert. Today I met with a geologist at an area college and he informed me that no the dial was not natural sandstone and that it was probably glass with manmade grown crystals inside (you know the sparkly stuff). After my lesson in sandstone formation and observing the dial under a microscope I too am convinced that this dial is in no way natural by any stretch of the imagination. Just last Friday Eyal was asked just this question and his reply was "natural". My only question is why?



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Is it Swiss or Chinese "faux" sandstone?

I only like the fake Swiss stuff myself.
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Here we go again .......................... Eyal had better reply .. or Diamond J or Meijun .. before this one gets outta hand too .. Blue


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If this is true, and I'm not saying I disbelieve you, then it's tragic in many ways.
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Now what!!!

First we have the swiss made issue
Then we have crystals instead of diamonds
and now this!!! What is next, that our
Meteorite dials are not real meteorite?

I would like to hear the explanation from Invicta on this one.
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Proof?
Sounds like that other site's BS to me?
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Came from the same company that did the crystals - (diamonds) on that ladies watch they made. Wasn't there a post about that a few weeks ago?

I wish Invicta used a totally different name instead of Invicta II. Its really effecting the brand

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IF it's not sandstone there is a man made substance called Goldstone that looks like this




Definition of Goldstone from wikipedia.
"Goldstone is a type of glittering glass made in a low-oxygen reducing atmophere. The finished product can take a smooth polish and be carved into beads, figurines, or other artifacts suitable for semiprecious stone, and in fact goldstone is often mistaken for or misrepresented as a natural material."
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Proof?
Sounds like that other site's BS to me?
That's harsh. John's a respected member of this forum and he's talking about a personal experience.
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Ok what is up? I hope that this is not true, but even Swiss Legend uses a sandstone. Minds want to know.


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You know, I saw a report by at least one other person who had taken a Sandstone Invicta apart and commented that there was no way that was natural sandstone. I understand that dial has been sent to a geological institute for analysis. That was why I asked Eyal the other day when he was online if the Invicta sandstone dials were actual natural sandstone, or created sandstone. He replied "Natural!"

Now we have the report from John in the OP that a professional has confirmed that the material in the Invicta sandstone dials is NOT natural sandstone. If this other report comes back the same way, I think that will constitute pretty conclusive proof. After the issue with the diamonds with no reply from Invicta, on top of the D-D and Swiss issues (and a few others) .... even though Eyal said outright in reply to my question that it was natural sandstone ..... at this point I wouldn't put anything past them, and with that recent history I think the burden of proof falls squarely on Invicta to come forward with a response to this (yet once again).

Maybe Eyal ordered these sandstone dials from the same company he ordered the diamond accent botiques from .... and he anticipated genuine sandstone and genuine diamonds, and didn't know what he was getting. AND ... as bad as that would be, it's actually the least possible bad scenario.
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That's harsh. John's a respected member of this forum and he's talking about a personal experience.
I'm talking about proof...thats harsh?
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I'm talking about proof...thats harsh?

No, it was the sounds like BS part. Forget it.
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I doesnt matter to me if its real sand or man made. What would bother me is being lied to, if it turns out that what John says is true. Not saying that I dont believe it.


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Proof?
Sounds like that other site's BS to me?
What proof would be adequate? And more importantly how would this proof personally affect you?


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In before thread is locked!


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I'm talking about proof...thats harsh?

You don't consider a microscopic analysis of an actual Invicta dial by a geologist to be proof?
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In before thread is locked!
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Wow this is crazy. I have a swiss SW200 pro diver sandstone or is it not???


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LOL I bought a "standstone" Ocean Reef in silver a couple weeks back- Got it in and it didnt have that "sandstone" sparkle - so I sent it back- maybe I got REAL sandstone! If thats the case- I'll take the man made "fake" stuff that sparkles like the "night sky" as Jim says. Just got in a couple of tungsten SWI sandstones in red and blue and they sparkle like crazy- love them.
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As a point I might think that Invicta was the goat in a scam some how. Either way you look at it is a bad thing if true.


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What proof would be adequate? And more importantly how would this proof personally affect you?
Well, guess that means you can prove it so it really
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No comments. I only pick Invicta up from bargain sites so can't complain.
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Remember when Invicta first instroduced sandstone dials in the Lupah reserve? Man they made such a huge thing over how exotic and rare and expensive and exclusive it was to be using sandstone dials ....... now, we see 5000 pieces of sandstone dial classique for a hundred bucks ..... hmmmm, makes one wonder about those original statements about how expensive and exclusive sandstone dials actually are?

Z, you might be right, it could well be that man made sandstone actually has more sparkle and looks better and natural sandstone would look ..... but, how it looks is not actually the point, is it?
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No comments. I only pick Invicta up from bargain sites so can't complain.
Me too. Buy other brands from Shop. Can always find my Invictas for a lower price elsewhere.

I have a Swiss Legend Blue Sandstone dial. Never gave any thought regarding the Sandstone. Will be interested to see if there is a response one way or another.
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Is it Swiss or Chinese "faux" sandstone?

I only like the fake Swiss stuff myself.

Maybe what Eyal ment was it was "SWISS" sand.......
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GEEKNOMO wrote:man, I wish I was a turd in yer pocket...............after all this foot work we did, I am jones'in' for some WG stupidity.......someone give me a fix!!!!!

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A friend sent me a dial, movement and caseback from a Blue sandstone Invicta Model number 0050 and asked if I could have it examined by an expert. Today I met with a geologist at an area college and he informed me that no the dial was not natural sandstone and that it was probably glass with manmade grown crystals inside (you know the sparkly stuff). After my lesson in sandstone formation and observing the dial under a microscope I too am convinced that this dial is in no way natural by any stretch of the imagination. Just last Friday Eyal was asked just this question and his reply was "natural". My only question is why?

is this geologist a professor with an advanced degree? i'm not sure what constitutes expert in this area but it sure sounds like pretty incriminating evidence that we are being lied to. personally i couldn't care less whether its sandstone, meteorite or petrified whale terd just be honest. i don't know how far you want to take this but would this geologist be willing to write a short note as to his or her findings? it really isn't worth the negative energy.


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You can see from my Avatar, I recently bought this watch from the Sunday Run. This is another disappointment from the Mothership.

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What proof would be adequate?

Until it comes from Jim, its LIES ALL LIES!!!
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Until it comes from Jim, its LIES ALL LIES!!!

Pal, you gotta pull you head outta the sand.....stone.
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I do believe an advanced degree is a requirement to be a professor, correct???

incorrect! you can be a low level professor with just a bachelor's or master's degree or higher up in the teaching chain with a phd. some fields require the paper along with experience but in some areas experience is enough to qualify as an expert.


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I applaud the investigational queries by qwikfix, WatchYaThink, timeman and other WGs who don't just accept as fact every aspect of a sales pitch.

No matter how innocently or innocuously information about the watches we buy is dispatched, the fact is many of us have come to realize that sometimes we are given incorrect information about these watches, and that is just wrong.

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Another day a other fiasco. Lol is anybody really shocked i mean let's be honest here. This type of thing is nothing new, and is exactly why my hard earned cash is spent elsewhere.


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This is wild. I do not care if it is man made or real sandstone. I just do not like being lied to. This is now the third issue that shows some type of possible deception. I think this needs to be addressed because I really like Invicta and would rather be told the truth then mislead. I would buy a man made dial if it looked nice, and My Classique Sandstone is beautiful. Well I hope there is an answer soon.


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I think any experienced rock hound could tell real sandstone from a man made look-a-like material. I would also think a Geology Grad Student could do the samething, let alone a Professor of Geology. Likewise a Certified Professional Geologist.

Usually a College Professor is a person with a Doctorate Degree. Associate Professors can have a Masters Degree.

Oh well, I am sure we'll hear an interesting explaination from someone at Invicta, unless by some happening this issue will just go-away.

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#43 Today, 07:23 PM
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Slow down there big fella, you'll notice the question marks at the end of correct, indicating that it's in fact a question. The incorrect! on your part was a bit over the top. That being said, if he has the credentials to TEACH then I would think he can tell glass from rock.

please accept my apology if the exclamation point eroded your very fragile and thin skin. in a court of law and subsequently in the court of public opinion not everybody that teaches a subject has distinguished himself as a recognized expert. geology is a science that requires many years of study to master so your comments regarding glass from rock are rather flippant.


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MOP stickers, rare exotic sandstone, white glove service, Swiss = Swiss Made, working closely with D-D, genuine diamond accents ..... and now fake sandstone. Is anyone counting? I mean, for any one of those we might say, okay, we can cut you some slack and you get a pass on that one ..... BUT, does anyone else see a consistent pattern here? It's like debacle de jour with this company, and it's really a shame because I believe that they do make some great watches, and they are actually trying to bring us quality watches at affordable prices .... for some strange reason it seems they just can't manage to tell the truth? Just say they are crystals if they are crystals, just say it is created sandstone if it is created sandstone, they would probably still sell just as many without the deception ..... although it may be unintentional, but then that's a whole different problem.
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I'll steer away from the real or Memorex issue here...what I find fascinating is the degree that all companies go to to differentiate their products to sell more of what IMHO has been a long commodities category.
Let's count the ways:
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I applaud the investigational queries by qwikfix, WatchYaThink, timeman and other WGs who don't just accept as fact every aspect of a sales pitch.

No matter how innocently or innocuously information about the watches we buy is dispatched, the fact is many of us have come to realize that sometimes we are given incorrect information about these watches, and that is just wrong.

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Amen Debbie, and I applaud them also. We all like Invicta watches, but we want the truth about the products we are spending our money on. Deceit is
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I have always like the advertisement: Made with real wood. Really.

Maybe Ralph Nader should be called into this. LOL

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I suggest you step back into your corner. I served 23 years in our military so my skin is quite thick. I need not banter with you any further.........it is below me.

for your military service to our country i thank you but for your lack of intellect i pity you.


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Re: glass=sandstone.........Im vendicated.........

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we need to calm down fellow geeks or this thread will be no more.
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for your military service to our country i thank you but for your lack of intellect i pity you.

I think you're stepping out of line here.
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You must be very lonely with that charming personality you possess.

4100 posts versus 90, who's lonely?


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Whats next their not using real steel lol.
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we need to calm down fellow geeks or this thread will be no more.

Agreed Charlie.....guys lets get back to the topic here, we don't want Jim or Michael to close this down, it is a very important issue.
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OP.........I apologize for stealing your thread.

On the advice of many of my fellow geeks I have pulled my comments from this thread. I will not be sucked into an argument.

To my friends that saw where this was going, thanks for the advice, I would have said something I would come to regret.
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we need to calm down fellow geeks or this thread will be no more.

It'll probably end up with the DD section that magically no longer exsist. I mean really where did that whole section go?


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OP.........I apologize for stealing your thread.

On the advice of many of my fellow geeks I have pulled my comments from this thread. I will not be sucked into an argument.

To my friends that saw where this was going, thanks for the advice, I would have said something I would come to regret.

Class act, buddy.

I for one am also interested of what happens to this thread. I hope it is simply a "diamond vs. crystal" thing again, and that not all of them are like this.
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Sandstone is not even considered a semi precious stone. Synthetic or natural this material has fantastic scintillation. I would cut some slack.
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Sandstone is not even considered a semi precious stone. Synthetic or natural this material has fantastic scintillation. I would cut some slack.

I believe people are po'd because they were (potentially) lied to (again).
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Sandstone is not even considered a semi precious stone. Synthetic or natural this material has fantastic scintillation. I would cut some slack.

Real or fake is not the issue here. It's the repeated lies that loyal customers are being told.


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Lets follow Rich's lead and end this before it gets out-of-hand...please...
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I am by NO means an expert yet, however, I am currently finishing the forth year of my second BS degree in Geology at Utah State University so I would like to offer some comments. Please take this as my attempt to be informative and not act as a "know it all". Sandstone is a sedimentary rock that is composed of grains that were previously eroded from other rocks - i.e igneous, feldspar, quartz, etc. and subsequently deposited, cemented or lithified (i.e. calcite cementation or extreme pressure over time). If I were to analyze this dial material I would characterize (identify) what the grains are made of, again quartz, feldspar, etc. - this is relatively easy to determine without destroying the dial (need high microscopic magnification). Additionally, a determination of the type of cementation that is holding the grains together would help determine if the material is natural versus synthetic. Conducting this type of test is typically destructive (acid or microscopic thin section). While I have never personally seen sandstone in these vibrant colors that does NOT by mean that they are not produced by nature. Invicta's supplier may have used a dye to create the vibrant optical effect. Occasionally geologists use dyes to help identify certain rock and mineral types. I suspect that producing sandstone dials this thin are well within the capabilities of the watch industry, but overall durability would be a function of material thickness and how it is bonded to the dial base (if this is what they have done). The origin of this raw material is should be relatively easy for Invicta to prove if they desire to do so. Then again, for a competitive advantage many companies tend to keep their material source internal (secret) for a competitive advantage. Kind Regards.


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I believe people are po'd because they were (potentially) lied to (again).

Agreed Michael, what is this now, the 5th incident? I think Larry is right a pattern has formed.......and will it ever end??????
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I am by NO means an expert yet, however, I am currently finishing the forth year of my second BS degree in Geology at Utah State University so I would like to offer some comments. Please take this as my attempt to be informative and not act as a "know it all". Sandstone is a sedimentary rock that is composed of grains that were previously eroded from other rocks - i.e igneous, feldspar, quartz, etc. and subsequently deposited, cemented or lithified (i.e. calcite cementation or extreme pressure over time). If I were to analyze this dial material I would characterize (identify) what the grains are made of, again quartz, feldspar, etc. - this is relatively easy to determine without destroying the dial (need high microscopic magnification). Additionally, a determination of the type of cementation that is holding the grains together would help determine if the material is natural versus synthetic. Conducting this type of test is typically destructive (acid or microscopic thin section). While I have never personally seen sandstone in these vibrant colors that does NOT by mean that they are not produced by nature. Invicta's supplier may have used a dye to create the vibrant optical effect. Occasionally geologists use dyes to help identify certain rock and mineral types. I suspect that producing sandstone dials this thin are well within the capabilities of the watch industry, but overall durability would be a function of material thickness and how it is bonded to the dial base (if this is what they have done). The origin of this raw material is should be relatively easy for Invicta to prove if they desire to do so. Then again, for a competitive advantage many companies tend to keep their material source internal (secret) for a competitive advantage. Kind Regards.

You are correct about the sandstone analysis. When this material is viewed under a microscope you can clearly see well defined patterns of triangles, and octogons. The problem is that under a microscope you can see the cross section of these shapes and they are essentially one dimensional. You would expect some if not most of these particles would be three dimensional but they are not. As for the cement there is none, just these one dimensional specs floating in clear glass.


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This thread has got me thinking... Has anyone checked or verified to see if the Meteor Dials are real? I'm not trying to open a Pandora's Box...please understand this. But after all, after spending a certain amount of money on my collection...I which I do love to do. Plus this(forum/website) is a great way to network...I want to know if my stuff is real?
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Just last Friday Eyal was asked just this question and his reply was "natural".

Naturally not real?




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Who knows how it is manufactured, compressed and created into a dial????

It is most likely a form of NATURAL stone manufactured into a dial.

these are some that can be purchased http://www.hktdc.com/sourcing/produc...cessories.htm#


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The last Invicta watch (es) that I purchased were the Speedway Elite w/"D.D." mov't. I sent both back for a refund. Neither Invicta, nor the Shop, offered us the opportunity to re-purchase these watches once they were repaired. That was the last Invicta watch that I purchased. Even when I see an Invicta aired that I would like I think of that experience I simply can not purchase that Invicta. This feeling has not wavered or dulled.


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Where does this end? What about the watches that are supposed to have "high quality natural" sapphire,tsavorites & mozambique garnets, and ruby bezels?
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In before thread is locked!

Hahahahaha! Too funny.

And yes here we go again. If you like it, like it, stop trying to disprove it. Now if, and I stress if, eyal lied that isn't right, but it could have been a simple misunderstanding or an explanation needed. Either way I could care less, unless he lied of course and only he knows that answer
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Real or fake is not the issue here. It's the repeated lies that loyal customers are being told.

Sorry, I am not knowledgeable of this issue. I am relatively new here and do not watch these programs with any regularity. I basically go on ShopNBC.com site and buy what I like. I was just responding to the look of what is used in this timepiece and the common Sedimentary rock Sandstone.
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Agreed Michael, what is this now, the 5th incident? I think Larry is right a pattern has formed.......and will it ever end??????


And let's not forget that outside of this forum very few consumers hear about any of this.......
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Dave, a gemologist described it under a microscope as one-dimensional triangle and octagon specs floating in glass ..... from what part of that description do you conclude that it is "most likely a form of NATURAL stone" ?? Sounds to me more like a metal flake paint job.
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Dave, a gemologist described it under a microscope as one-dimensional triangle and octagon specs floating in glass ..... from what part of that description do you conclude that it is "most likely a form of NATURAL stone" ?? Sounds to me more like a metal flake paint job.

The man who gave his opinion on this material is a geologist and his title starts with Doctor.


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Amen Debbie, and I applaud them also. We all like Invicta watches, but we want the truth about the products we are spending our money on. Deceit is
not the way to do business.


My thought is, let's be fair, someone break open their SL sandstones and have them tested.

Seems like we are picking on the big guy here. Keep in mind I have no investment in either company or any sandstone watches. But calling eyal a liar over and over again, well, becomes uninteresting and tedious
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Some of this is rather curious to think about, but I own a Classique Pinnacle w/ the midnight blue sandstone, and you know what? The watch is gorgeous. Even if it is the Goldstone that Timeman posted pics of, it's still gorgeous. I would be interested to see what Invicta says about this, if anything, but I will still love and wear my Pinnacle either way...who knows? The information does sound compelling that something stinks here, but hopefully one of our big-wigs here will step forward and give some information on this...?
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Sorry, I am not knowledgeable of this issue. I am relatively new here and do not watch these programs with any regularity. I basically go on ShopNBC.com site and buy what I like. I was just responding to the look of what is used in this timepiece and the common Sedimentary rock Sandstone.

well just stick around and keep reading you be able to make your own assessment soon enough.. welcome to the board..


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I buy what I like and like what I buy. I'm not buying to make a profit and to have them and save them to see if later on there worth more $$$. I dont even sell my watches, think about selling or even think about trading them. I keep all my watches. But the botom line is...I want to make sure what I buy is real. So I trust Eyal, Jim and Mike if and when they tell me what the product is. But in what evewr I buy...what ever it is. A car, house, or a watch...I just to make sure I'm buying the real deal.
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I guess that there is a reason I do not have any of the watches that contain these erroneous elements: I have simple tastes and most of the high-end, cool watch elements don't sing to me. In the case of all the Invicta issues, I guess that that makes me lucky as I have yet to be affected by them.

This saddens me, non the less, for those who have.
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Does this mean, Invicta is using fake Stainless Steel lol.
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#85 Today, 08:39 PM
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Man, this is better than the Friday night fights...... ... I suppose the next shop NBC show will feature michael stapped into a lie detector,....stay tuned

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