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we need to calm down fellow geeks or this thread will be no more.
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for your military service to our country i thank you but for your lack of intellect i pity you.
I think you're stepping out of line here.
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4100 posts versus 90, who's lonely?
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Whats next their not using real steel lol.
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we need to calm down fellow geeks or this thread will be no more.
Agreed Charlie.....guys lets get back to the topic here, we don't want Jim or Michael to close this down, it is a very important issue.
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OP.........I apologize for stealing your thread.
On the advice of many of my fellow geeks I have pulled my comments from this thread. I will not be sucked into an argument.
To my friends that saw where this was going, thanks for the advice, I would have said something I would come to regret.
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we need to calm down fellow geeks or this thread will be no more.
It'll probably end up with the DD section that magically no longer exsist. I mean really where did that whole section go?
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OP.........I apologize for stealing your thread.
On the advice of many of my fellow geeks I have pulled my comments from this thread. I will not be sucked into an argument.
To my friends that saw where this was going, thanks for the advice, I would have said something I would come to regret.
Class act, buddy.
I for one am also interested of what happens to this thread. I hope it is simply a "diamond vs. crystal" thing again, and that not all of them are like this.
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Sandstone is not even considered a semi precious stone. Synthetic or natural this material has fantastic scintillation. I would cut some slack.
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Sandstone is not even considered a semi precious stone. Synthetic or natural this material has fantastic scintillation. I would cut some slack.
I believe people are po'd because they were (potentially) lied to (again).
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Sandstone is not even considered a semi precious stone. Synthetic or natural this material has fantastic scintillation. I would cut some slack.
Real or fake is not the issue here. It's the repeated lies that loyal customers are being told.
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Lets follow Rich's lead and end this before it gets out-of-hand...please...
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I am by NO means an expert yet, however, I am currently finishing the forth year of my second BS degree in Geology at Utah State University so I would like to offer some comments. Please take this as my attempt to be informative and not act as a "know it all". Sandstone is a sedimentary rock that is composed of grains that were previously eroded from other rocks - i.e igneous, feldspar, quartz, etc. and subsequently deposited, cemented or lithified (i.e. calcite cementation or extreme pressure over time). If I were to analyze this dial material I would characterize (identify) what the grains are made of, again quartz, feldspar, etc. - this is relatively easy to determine without destroying the dial (need high microscopic magnification). Additionally, a determination of the type of cementation that is holding the grains together would help determine if the material is natural versus synthetic. Conducting this type of test is typically destructive (acid or microscopic thin section). While I have never personally seen sandstone in these vibrant colors that does NOT by mean that they are not produced by nature. Invicta's supplier may have used a dye to create the vibrant optical effect. Occasionally geologists use dyes to help identify certain rock and mineral types. I suspect that producing sandstone dials this thin are well within the capabilities of the watch industry, but overall durability would be a function of material thickness and how it is bonded to the dial base (if this is what they have done). The origin of this raw material is should be relatively easy for Invicta to prove if they desire to do so. Then again, for a competitive advantage many companies tend to keep their material source internal (secret) for a competitive advantage. Kind Regards.
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I believe people are po'd because they were (potentially) lied to (again).
Agreed Michael, what is this now, the 5th incident? I think Larry is right a pattern has formed.......and will it ever end??????
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I am by NO means an expert yet, however, I am currently finishing the forth year of my second BS degree in Geology at Utah State University so I would like to offer some comments. Please take this as my attempt to be informative and not act as a "know it all". Sandstone is a sedimentary rock that is composed of grains that were previously eroded from other rocks - i.e igneous, feldspar, quartz, etc. and subsequently deposited, cemented or lithified (i.e. calcite cementation or extreme pressure over time). If I were to analyze this dial material I would characterize (identify) what the grains are made of, again quartz, feldspar, etc. - this is relatively easy to determine without destroying the dial (need high microscopic magnification). Additionally, a determination of the type of cementation that is holding the grains together would help determine if the material is natural versus synthetic. Conducting this type of test is typically destructive (acid or microscopic thin section). While I have never personally seen sandstone in these vibrant colors that does NOT by mean that they are not produced by nature. Invicta's supplier may have used a dye to create the vibrant optical effect. Occasionally geologists use dyes to help identify certain rock and mineral types. I suspect that producing sandstone dials this thin are well within the capabilities of the watch industry, but overall durability would be a function of material thickness and how it is bonded to the dial base (if this is what they have done). The origin of this raw material is should be relatively easy for Invicta to prove if they desire to do so. Then again, for a competitive advantage many companies tend to keep their material source internal (secret) for a competitive advantage. Kind Regards.
You are correct about the sandstone analysis. When this material is viewed under a microscope you can clearly see well defined patterns of triangles, and octogons. The problem is that under a microscope you can see the cross section of these shapes and they are essentially one dimensional. You would expect some if not most of these particles would be three dimensional but they are not. As for the cement there is none, just these one dimensional specs floating in clear glass.
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This thread has got me thinking... Has anyone checked or verified to see if the Meteor Dials are real? I'm not trying to open a Pandora's Box...please understand this. But after all, after spending a certain amount of money on my collection...I which I do love to do. Plus this(forum/website) is a great way to network...I want to know if my stuff is real?
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#69 Today, 08:11 PM
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Just last Friday Eyal was asked just this question and his reply was "natural".
Naturally not real?
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Who knows how it is manufactured, compressed and created into a dial????
It is most likely a form of NATURAL stone manufactured into a dial.
these are some that can be purchased
http://www.hktdc.com/sourcing/produc...cessories.htm#
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The last Invicta watch (es) that I purchased were the Speedway Elite w/"D.D." mov't. I sent both back for a refund. Neither Invicta, nor the Shop, offered us the opportunity to re-purchase these watches once they were repaired. That was the last Invicta watch that I purchased. Even when I see an Invicta aired that I would like I think of that experience I simply can not purchase that Invicta. This feeling has not wavered or dulled.
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Where does this end? What about the watches that are supposed to have "high quality natural" sapphire,tsavorites & mozambique garnets, and ruby bezels?
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#73 Today, 08:16 PM
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In before thread is locked!
Hahahahaha! Too funny.
And yes here we go again. If you like it, like it, stop trying to disprove it. Now if, and I stress if, eyal lied that isn't right, but it could have been a simple misunderstanding or an explanation needed. Either way I could care less, unless he lied of course and only he knows that answer
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#74 Today, 08:17 PM
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Real or fake is not the issue here. It's the repeated lies that loyal customers are being told.
Sorry, I am not knowledgeable of this issue. I am relatively new here and do not watch these programs with any regularity. I basically go on ShopNBC.com site and buy what I like. I was just responding to the look of what is used in this timepiece and the common Sedimentary rock Sandstone.
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Agreed Michael, what is this now, the 5th incident? I think Larry is right a pattern has formed.......and will it ever end??????
And let's not forget that outside of this forum very few consumers hear about any of this.......
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