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Ditchdoc wrote:

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Following the "technicality" concrete would be considered natural since the components in it are natural; originally quicklime, volcanic ash and pumice (as used by the Romans) and modified over time but should concrete be called "natural" just because its components are?

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OMG!!! What a bunch of pathetic drones. Is there not one ounce of self-esteem in that forum?

Ditchdoc wrote:2 p's, 2 l's, no u. :wqwq:

BigCheez wrote:

Ditchdoc wrote:2 p's, 2 l's, no u. :wqwq:

His name is Paul, LOL

iwasbanned wrote:Geek, seriously man, relax. We are all behind you. We want to take it a step further. To take it a step further, we need documented proof.

If you really want to bring these mofo's down, you have to come strong or not at all. You have to have everyone of your bases covered. That's what HH and others are asking for.

We don't doubt you, we just want to be advocates for you in this issue, but in order to do that, we need something to back it up. You have to understand that so far, Koi, SloMo, and yourself are the only ones privy to any evidence.

All we want is an airtight case that not even dumbass45, 50mmwhenup, and nylooser can dispute.

All in all good work. I'm gonna see about getting my SL sandstone looked at, maybe do a side by side comparison.

Guys I am looking into this with our dial supplier. Will get a reply and come back to you with information. Give me a chance to evaluate. The info I read here make sense too. Sk the question is, if the sandstone is natural or lab created. More to come

This thread has gotten very long, very quickly. I apologize for not being here earlier.

I don't know where each brand is sourcing their dial materials for the sandstone offerings, but I have never been able to see a difference between Invicta, Swiss Legend, or the Tourneau branded watches I have held. There could be 10 sources or only one... not sure.

As far as it being misunderstood and actually being Goldstone, I also cannot answer, although both examples posted in the first page do look very much like what we've been seeing in all of these watches.

Whatever the case, I will be asking as well. If I was given wrong information, I want to know about it.

Eyal has been notified about this topic and we should hopefully get a response for you soon.

I will also be talking to Lior since he too works with Sandstone dials, and to my eye, they appear to be identical in every respect.

All I know is that various Sandstone dial watches have gone through my hands, Lior's hands, Eyal's hands, and Juan Lopez-Davies... and I don't know that any of us have had any reason to question their validity... but if there is a story here, we would all want to know about it. I don't mention Lior and Juan to connect them to this situation, but rather to exhibit that more than just Invicta uses this material, and I don't see a visual difference.

I have also shown the Sandstone chunk on-air a few times, and one side was polished (the rest was left natural), and that polished area of the large chunk looked identical to the dial in the watch I displayed... so again, no reason to believe anything except it would be authentic.

Let's not get carried away with accusations, conspiracy theories, or angry words until we have more information. I also believe we would benefit from actual documentation from this geologist to back up

koimaster wrote:Wasn't the Invicta sales manager Jill asked about this on air and she responded it was REAL sandstone?

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OK… so my day starts out with an alarming email being asked to log here and read this post. So I did…. And I have to admit that all the information made some sense. So I posted about an hour ago that I would look into this further. And I have…. I called our sourcing manager in Asia, and asked for a conference call with our raw material supplier immediately. Mind you, its 9pm there…. But we just finished the conference call. The material we use for our dials is SANDSTONE. Sandstone raw material is sourced FROM THE EARTH. The ONLY thing that is man-made is the process of bonding the sandstone grain to a brick like raw bar, which then gets sent to our dial factory and gets cut to dials and polished. Our raw material supplier confirmed that the sandstone used in dials by other watch manufacturers or the use of sandstone in jewelry are made the same way as the dials we make. Again, I cannot speak for what every company does – I can only tell you what we do. I hope this helps, but please understand that I am in no way trying to dispute a geologist’s knowledge, I can only speak to how our dials are made.

TRU-LYE wrote:funny thing is that post reads like a response from Jim..

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Guys I am looking into this with our dial supplier. Will get a reply and come back to you with information. Give me a chance to evaluate. The info I read here make sense too. Sk the question is, if the sandstone is natural or lab created. More to come