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Here's the Mod's statement:

dear george.... need a quick $200...I know of a watch company claiming to have Swiss factories..... You could be the watch worlds informant.


The only thing that is laughable there right now are the apologists, those who are holding their noses hoping against hope and those who say " who cares what the movement it! my watch is cool". The sad part is they consider themselves collectors. Having a bunch of watches does not a WIS make.

That Samual guy is a complete fucking idiot. Every post I read is dumber than the last. And then that pic of his smiling plump face. Douchebag!

I agree him, that smoking chimp and nycruza (we know you ride a Harley dick bag) should jump off the nearest cliff!

The list of suck up Invictaphilles just keeps growing.

RipitRon
50mmandup
strutn45
nycruza
samual whatever the fuck

and a host of new geeks that shouldn't even open their mouths.

Of course theres the Mods. They go without saying. I would suggest that their names be changed from Moderators to Thought Police.

Ditchdoc wrote:The list of suck up Invictaphilles just keeps growing.

RipitRon
50mmandup
strutn45
nycruza
samual whatever the fuck

and a host of new geeks that shouldn't even open their mouths.

Of course theres the Mods. They go without saying. I would suggest that their names be changed from Moderators to Thought Police.

Please add Sea Vulture to the top of the list. What a tool!

buck298 wrote:

Ditchdoc wrote:The list of suck up Invictaphilles just keeps growing.

RipitRon
50mmandup
strutn45
nycruza
samual whatever the fuck

and a host of new geeks that shouldn't even open their mouths.

Of course theres the Mods. They go without saying. I would suggest that their names be changed from Moderators to Thought Police.

Please add Sea Vulture to the top of the list. What a tool!

Sorry about that Buck. I forgot all about Sea Vulture. It's been a while since I have been there.

betterskills wrote:That Samual guy is a complete fucking idiot. Every post I read is dumber than the last. And then that pic of his smiling plump face. Douchebag!

He does have that "I like Jim Skelton so much I cut my hair like him, have my sideburns like him, and my gotee just like him too" thing going on, doesn't he?

As for that thread, it's as transparent as a Flame Fusion Crystal.... You know a clean one, not like the dirty ones with smudges and fingerprints underneath like we hear about all the time.

Confuse the issue: The issue was, is, and always will be Invicta flat out LIED! It was never about comparing quality of Chinese movements against Swiss movements. But that is what the Invicta-Davidians spun to confuse the issue and change the point of the entire thread. This allowed the moderators to decree....

Only questions for Eyal allowed from this point on: The debate at this point is all of 72 hours old and no more discussion will be allowed on it? Like Eyal was ever going to come back answer any questions, his response was posted 2nd hand from his former customer service account. That was an effort to sink the thread, no way around it.

Release the dogs!: The Invicta-Davidians after the decree swoon in and stir up debate again. Notice how they all post back to back for almost a full page. Of course their unwaivering worship and total attitude that Invicta cannot possibly do any wrong brings on discussion after the decree. Even Chief68 who is a mod himself could not stop from posting.

Close the thread: A couple of lame warnings later, thread closed. End of immediate problem.

Close all future threads: Now all threads even hinting at this topic get locked. For good measure the Invicta-Davidians and even the mods post "beating a dead horse" ad nausem. Yeah, dead horse alright. This topic is all of 5 whole days old and never has Invicta or Shop NBC addressed the issue that Invicta lied for years by hawking Chinese movement watches and claiming they were Swiss Made timepieces. Not even so much as a Swiss movement in them.

Pathetic. If they would just come and tell the truth and say from this point forward honesty and integrity will be priority one..... Well I still won't buy your stupid watches but at least I would not damn your very existence you assbags.

I don't know about you guys but I've always thought just from his appearances on tv that Lalo is a shifty character. He's always smirking like "...these idiots will buy anything I say!". For once I would love to see someone call this jackhole out...on national tv. I can just see him rubbing his hands together with dollar signs for eyeballs.

Ditchdoc wrote:The list of suck up Invictaphilles just keeps growing.

RipitRon
50mmandup
strutn45
nycruza
samual whatever the fuck

and a host of new geeks that shouldn't even open their mouths.

Of course theres the Mods. They go without saying. I would suggest that their names be changed from Moderators to Thought Police.

You have to add 'mrblue' to the "Invicta suck-up" list..... :BS:

Mr Blue is a brainwashed fool that writes as though English was a second language. His pronouncements mean nothing, his posts are vacuous and his ridiculous sign off (............MB) is assinine. He might be the most annoying turd floating in that toilet bowl. Luckily, we all know nycruza still holds that title until he drives his Harley into a brick wall.

Here is another, similar to Koi's post. It was a gift-what were they thinking? I like to think of it as the dark period of my watch collection.

Here is my Swinese Invicta. It died awhile back and I tossed it.

Read some of the posts here. Looks like Invicter faked QUARTZ movements (Chinese "Ronda" instead of Swiss Ronda)

Are there any evidences they use Chinese clones of automatic movements? Those are harder to counterfeit. The only thing I can think is the Chinese Sea-Gull or Hangzhou versions of ETA 2824 clones and the Shanghai 7750 - and even those can be distinguished by an experienced watch repairman.

I only buy automatics and handwind. Quartz not my cup of tea. If no companies are faking automatic movements I think we are okay with just buying automatics

Required reading for newbies there; the depth these crumbs use to go to to sell their shoddy products was just short of awe-inspiring - not to mention just short of actionable. If lying is an art form, these bums took it to new lows in home shopping mendacity.

PiningforElgin wrote:Read some of the posts here. Looks like Invicter faked QUARTZ movements (Chinese "Ronda" instead of Swiss Ronda)

Are there any evidences they use Chinese clones of automatic movements? Those are harder to counterfeit. The only thing I can think is the Chinese Sea-Gull or Hangzhou versions of ETA 2824 clones and the Shanghai 7750 - and even those can be distinguished by an experienced watch repairman.

I only buy automatics and handwind. Quartz not my cup of tea. If no companies are faking automatic movements I think we are okay with just buying automatics

I don't know but I'd bet their claimed Swiss mechanical movements probably were Swiss.

But that's not the prevarication. They were entertaining the delusion that USCBP regs stating that the movement origin was the watch's origin allowed them to ignore the Swiss FH's lawfully held US Trademarks for "Swiss" and "Swiss Made". Or, perhaps more likely, simply didn't give a fuck. The Swiss FH had to educate them to the contrary to get them to stop putting "Swiss Made" on a watch where the only thing Swiss was the movement. There actually is no conflict between USCBP and the Swiss FH's rules for use of the marks - the mechanical invicters should have been marked "Swiss Movement" instead of "Swiss Made".

Heromex or Millionsmart of any of a pantload of others will cheerfully purchase a Swiss movement to hammer into a Chinese case. This does not make it a Swiss watch but invicter has been getting away with that shit since 2010 when they spun the fiction that they may have fucked up putting "Swiss" on an all-Chinese watch but their non-quartz were 100% made in Switzerland. All labor and most material was in fact from Guangzhou and Kowloon.

Hawk wrote:
But that's not the prevarication. They were entertaining the delusion that USCBP regs stating that the movement origin was the watch's origin allowed them to ignore the Swiss FH's lawfully held US Trademarks for "Swiss" and "Swiss Made". Or, perhaps more likely, simply didn't give a fuck. The Swiss FH had to educate them to the contrary to get them to stop putting "Swiss Made" on a watch where the only thing Swiss was the movement. There actually is no conflict between USCBP and the Swiss FH's rules for use of the marks - the mechanical invicters should have been marked "Swiss Movement" instead of "Swiss Made".

Heromex or Millionsmart of any of a pantload of others will cheerfully purchase a Swiss movement to hammer into a Chinese case. This does not make it a Swiss watch but invicter has been getting away with that shit since 2010 when they spun the fiction that they may have fucked up putting "Swiss" on an all-Chinese watch but their non-quartz were 100% made in Switzerland. All labor and most material was in fact from Guangzhou and Kowloon.

That's the story in an expertly concise nutshell. Well done as always, Hawk.

Those wondering why the Invicta rancor exists on this site should take the time to scour our archives. The Swissese factor is only one of IWG's many infractions, which have been a blight on this hobby for more than a decade.