well since I am the one posting this and I was very surprised to see it go as long as it has, my two cents worth.
Skelton has made comments to those complaining in the past before. It is either the person posting a falsehood or any one but Eyals fault. He even went so far in a thread to pooh pooh a WG member who mentioned going to the State Attorney.
At least your former Admin Brad was honest in his posts.
Originally Posted by DIAMANTE
My theory is that these models have the Asian version of the Ronda 5040d and therefore cannot be labled Swiss Made.
Sorry, that wouldn't be allowed under U.S. Customs country of origin labeling regulations. If you read the following excerpts from the regs. you will note that the country of origin of the movement must should appear on the dial or case back. A company subject to U.S. Customs regs, could not put Swiss on the dial when in fact the movement was made in Asia.
U.S. Customs Regulations, 19 CFR Part 177
Chapter 91, Additional U.S. Note 4, Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States, sets forth special marking requirements for watches and clocks:
(a) Watch movements shall be marked on one or more of the bridges or top plates to show:
(i) the name of the country of manufacture,
(ii) the name of the manufacturer or purchaser, and
(iii) in words, the number of jewels, if any, serving a mechanical purpose as frictional bearings.
(c) Watch cases shall be marked on the inside or outside of the back to show:
(i) the name of the country of manufacture, and
(ii) the name of the manufacturer or purchaser.
The above movements and cases must be conspicuously and indelibly marked by cutting, die-sinking, engraving, stamping (including by means of indelible ink), or mold-marking. Movements with opto-electronic display only and cases designed for use therewith, whether entered as separate articles or as components of assembled watches or clocks, are excepted from these special marking requirements.
Watches and clocks are also subject to the normal country of origin marking requirements of 19 U.S.C. 1304, and under these requirements, the movement’s country of origin should appear conspicuously and legibly on the dial face or on the outside of the back. In addition, watchbands should be marked with the country of manufacture of the band, unless the watchband is attached in the country where the watch was produced.
Sorry Sam, Swiss and Swiss Made as used in the U.S. do not mean the same thing.
In the U.S., Swiss Made is controlled through the Swiss Federation's USPTO registered trademark, and Federation member or not, their rules must be followed under their trademark rights.
Swiss at the 6 position when used by a non-federation member in the U.S. does not necessarily mean the same as Swiss Made. It's entirely up to the non-member company's policy, so long as it complies with U.S. Customs regulations that require the movement used in the watch to be from the country of origin placed on the dial. So at a minimum, you know that a watch so labeled has a Swiss movement.
So I obtained today one of these watches and it was delivered intact to the Oregon AG along with the thread I have a copy of. We will see what happens from there.
Well Jimbo, I have also sent a copy of that thread to the FTC as well as the Florida AG. If you want to sell chinese watches, hey go for it. Nothing wrong with them.
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