Watchlords

And the list goes on & on & on.

Numerous complaints about crowns on the bolt, all models, not locking, just turning and turning and turning and turning. Complaints from customers getting them back from invicta repair still broken.

My favorite moments from 2010: "Officina del Tempo" rotor plates on Invicta divers on ShopNBC - TWICE!

You need to add "Look Ma, No Hands!" This scew up spans a number of watches and movements from SA IIIs to Venoms to DD. I would think one of the most basic competencies of any watch manufacturer is to put hands on a watch that stay in place.

Another one maybe some don't remember was the SAS VJ7750 fiasco when the very first Sub Aqua Specialty autos were delivered to customers. Some bought as many as three and had all three go bad. Watchmakers found loose scews floating around in the case. Guess who got blamed? You got it, UPS.

And what about the rip off Sunday runs where watches were "sold" at prices below the cost of the movement, but NONE were delivered to customers. And they banned Renato for pre-selling mystery watches.

Oh, and what about crowns coming out on the Swiss mechanical Sea Vulture and the defective clasps that pop open.

Who can forget the screw stripping fiasco on the interchangable bracelets for SA IIIs and Venoms. Not to mention the clunky crap SA III bracelets with failing welds on clasps.

Or, the staining of early Sea Spider light colored urethane straps (yellow, white, red).

Forgive the harshness of the following statement, but I write this with love:

IWG has been proven to be an utter joke for five years running - but not as much as the goofs who continue to wear cute little yellow raincoats and order watches three at a time in the hopes, faint as they may be, that one might actually work.

Given everything that's happened in 2011, reading WGs makes me feel like Jack Nicholson at Oregon State Hospital, if you catch my drift.

BTW: Lies All Lies' original list is the greatest single compendium in this history of this forum. A great job that I hope eventually gets updated; however, given what's gone on the past 18 months, there might not be enough bandwidth to actually list all of the IWG FUBARs.

and the years not nearly over..........the hits just keep coming........

I have a Corduba Ibiza with an incorrect caseback. Also had the floating hand issue. My my my.

wow, I'm not even half way down the list and thanks to, partly due to my glucoma, I already need to take a break away from reading all of these horological horror stories. How in the world is this brand still on a major network is what really blows my load.

They'r warranty is not free and they have the quality control of a chinese rep factory, sounds like cha ching from both ends to me, while geeks by the bucketfull continue to cheerfully take the daily double dickings with a wide kool aid grin.

Sorry, had to add one more.

Remember when flame fusion first came out, Lalo, Jimbo and company were describing the process as "patented" by Invicta. After a number of folks did a patent search (which is public record), no patent to Invicta for flame fusion could be found. But they still kept going on SNBC claiming it was patented. Then they were reminded on their forum that claiming something is patented when it is not is considered FRAUD by the US Patent and Trademark Office, and they need to cease making these claims.

They then correctly began describing Flame Fusion as Trademarked, which is whole lot different than being patented.

Flame Con-fusion wrote:Sorry, had to add one more.

Remember when flame fusion first came out, Lalo, Jimbo and company were describing the process as "patented" by Invicta. After a number of folks did a patent search (which is public record), no patent to Invicta for flame fusion could be found. But they still kept going on SNBC claiming it was patented. Then they were reminded on their forum that claiming something is patented when it is not is considered FRAUD by the US Patent and Trademark Office, and they need to cease making these claims.

They then correctly began describing Flame Fusion as Trademarked, which is whole lot different than being patented.

I would actually chalk that up to stupidity more than anything else. We have talked of the utter hype spewed by Turdling, Skelton, and the others, but the utter king of baseless claims and over-hype is Lalo. When he's on, watch the shows and really listen, because it's easy to catch him in so many outlandish statements that it becomes, well, hilarious ... to everyone but the poor suckers who fall for his line of bullshit.

1. Build a better mouse-trap and the world will beat a path to your door.

2. Devise a new way to scam people and Eyal and Invicta will beat a path to your door.

The first statement is a miss-quotation of a Ralph W. Emerson saying.

The second statement is just plain fact as is proven in many many ways.

bc

TemerityB wrote:

Flame Con-fusion wrote:Sorry, had to add one more.

Remember when flame fusion first came out, Lalo, Jimbo and company were describing the process as "patented" by Invicta. After a number of folks did a patent search (which is public record), no patent to Invicta for flame fusion could be found. But they still kept going on SNBC claiming it was patented. Then they were reminded on their forum that claiming something is patented when it is not is considered FRAUD by the US Patent and Trademark Office, and they need to cease making these claims.

They then correctly began describing Flame Fusion as Trademarked, which is whole lot different than being patented.

I would actually chalk that up to stupidity more than anything else.

I think it's more sinister than that. They knew exactly what they were doing, but continued anyway until they were called on it. Lying about the facts and stretching the truth is so much apart of their marketing strategy they consider it acceptable. Especially when we have a sleeping FTC that lets these guys get away with gross false advertising with no impact whatsoever.

my intro was buying the noma III with the 3 bands and the yellow box. AFTER I bought it, I found WGs and found out they would not keep the hand on the 6 o'clock dial. Of course They were out by then so mine had to be sent for repairs. After 14 weeks it returned, wore it a few times and it has the SAME problem. most of the watches for this set have the same problem

Dan, kevco,

It doesn't surprise me to read of your IWG horrors, and I honestly feel for how ripped off you must feel. Hopefully, you won't go back to IWG, and that's the key here...you can't go back. You have to learn from their mistakes, which is a sad fact of life for anyone who has ever sent in money to get back a substandard product.

Your stories always bring me back to what a salesman at a major watch chain, who pointed at his IWG section and blatantly said out loud: "I don't know why we sell these. They only break, and you can't get them fixed." The "you" in that statement actually meant the store; even a major retailer can't get the parts to do repair work in-house.

In short: IWG products are slapped together shoddily in China - even when the face on the watch says otherwise - and they are made by various companies with parts used from various sources, gray and otherwise. They are not made with any regard to eventual repairs whatsoever, and the literally thousands of styles they've produced make fixing these "collectable" watches entirely impossible.

If anyone, anywhere, can prove any part of the above sentence to be untrue, please prove it, here or otherwise ....Jeez, what am I asking for; I have a better chance of growing wings than that happening, don't I.

thank you for telling me my collection is complete crap - and even though they are working perfectly for me - its great to know that the hands will fall off just before the crystals shatter, blowing the rotors, screws, and finish off the watch.... guess I'll go kill myself now

david.b.francisco wrote:thank you for telling me my collection is complete crap - and even though they are working perfectly for me - its great to know that the hands will fall off just before the crystals shatter, blowing the rotors, screws, and finish off the watch.... guess I'll go kill myself now

I wondered how long it would for some to make a post like this.




You did not stumble here, you came here with an agenda which is something I already knew but was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Once a bunny it seems, always a bunny. No one cares what you wear as long as you are an informed buyer. Coming here to preach Invicta is not too a bright idea but hey give it shot.

david.b.francisco wrote:thank you for telling me my collection is complete crap - and even though they are working perfectly for me - its great to know that the hands will fall off just before the crystals shatter, blowing the rotors, screws, and finish off the watch.... guess I'll go kill myself now

This is ridiculous. The last post in this thread was written back on August 15 - but you joined just recently. So how is anyone referring to your watch collection?

Invasion of The Fuzzy Bunnies, Part Infinity. For you to get wounded over old news and FACTS is...well, sadly, typical. Ho fucking hum. Apparently, there's a short shelf life happening here; can't wait to read the walking wounded routine on Facebook's Invicta Addicts next.

david.b.francisco wrote:thank you for telling me my collection is complete crap - and even though they are working perfectly for me - its great to know that the hands will fall off just before the crystals shatter, blowing the rotors, screws, and finish off the watch.... guess I'll go kill myself now

It's crap I'll say it I have a few left from my Kool-Aide days.It hurts when the truth hits you right in the mouth. Many many watches at the same price point that are far better.From a beater to say 900.00 Sapphire Ghost I still have.And If you bought after 2009 I feel sorry for you. Might as well put the money in a fire on a cool night. Stick around read and learn something before you spout off some Bull shit about Inshita.

MOST of my watches still work, I, now better informed, do not plan on spending GOOD money after bad. When they tell me what "SWISS" means then the other day on facebook Skelton says there are only about 3 REAL swiss watches the rest say swiss but have Chinese movements inside and are called "Swiss" because they are assembled in a Swiss factory. THIS makes me think that the Invictas are NOT assembled in a Swiss factory, which means I have been lied to by both the Invicta sales HOs as well as SNBC. I do like the size and looks of most of the watches, however I won't be getting another anytime soon...

@koi thanks for making me a troll I'm a member of a subgroup already!! woohoo

no, I did not come here w/ an adgenda... new to watches... maybe I'll get lucky w/ what I have and they will keep working, idk. The only watch I'm not happy with is my Pro Diver Automatic - can't be wound w/ the stem, only winds w/ the rotor.

I have 2 excursions, sea spider, corduba 0991, a columbia digital, an android retrograde & a stuhrling original.

@dan Yes, I'm reading, learning - I'll go back to the corner now and put on the dunce hat...

david.b.francisco wrote:@koi thanks for making me a troll I'm a member of a subgroup already!! woohoo

Got your attention did it not?

no, I did not come here w/ an adgenda... new to watches... maybe I'll get lucky w/ what I have and they will keep working, idk. The only watch I'm not happy with is my Pro Diver Automatic - can't be wound w/ the stem, only winds w/ the rotor.

I have 2 excursions, sea spider, corduba 0991, a columbia digital, an android retrograde & a stuhrling original.

@dan Yes, I'm reading, learning - I'll go back to the corner now and put on the dunce hat...

I will repeat this again...... No one really cares what you wear although they make razz you about it. It is your money. As long as you are informed about what you are buying and happy with it, hey, enjoy them.

As to Invicta issues, almost all long time Invicta owners agree that the date for better made Invicta watches passed in late 2006 or so. After that something seems to have happened which appears to be poor QC, and CS, and almost all watches made in China.

Almost every member here either owns or has owned Invicta watches and many were at one time members of WG. Many still are in fact but under different IDs.

david.b.francisco wrote:thank you for telling me my collection is complete crap - and even though they are working perfectly for me - its great to know that the hands will fall off just before the crystals shatter, blowing the rotors, screws, and finish off the watch.... guess I'll go kill myself now

noone is saying your "collection" is crap, you might get that impression yourself though from reading these truths about invicta.

i have three invictas and they are nice looking, low cost, chinese watches, thats all they are.

david.b.francisco wrote:@koi thanks for making me a troll I'm a member of a subgroup already!! woohoo

no, I did not come here w/ an adgenda... new to watches... maybe I'll get lucky w/ what I have and they will keep working, idk. The only watch I'm not happy with is my Pro Diver Automatic - can't be wound w/ the stem, only winds w/ the rotor.

I have 2 excursions, sea spider, corduba 0991, a columbia digital, an android retrograde & a stuhrling original.

@dan Yes, I'm reading, learning - I'll go back to the corner now and put on the dunce hat...

I like my Invictas, however, the amount of "SWISS" in our watches is a lie. and having to PAY shipping on a watch that arrives broken is just RUDE. If they built them like they say they built them they would have a very good product.

They so over inflate the "suggested" retail that should be a clue to us. { I have actually seen them being sold in a mall watch store closer to that price than what they sell for at the various TV sales stores}

I only have two Automatics, matching his/hers gold tone dive watches. The rest are quartz and all at least 50 mm {compensating much? } now if I can just find someone to by my Leviathan for full retail... :JJH:

50mm watches & quartz at that... what were you thinking. Did you say they were Invicta? And what the fuck is a Leviathan????

YGTBST

it is a BIG fat watch. yeah, and my every day watch is about 44mm automatic but man the tritium sure is bright at night....