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New Omega Moonwatch

Post by koimaster » January 5th 2021, 12:28pm

After what’s felt like years of speculation, followed by numerous false leads, and then an untimely delay on the heels of a global pandemic, the legendary Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch has finally gotten the update we’ve all been waiting for: an updated Master Chronometer-certified engine, a new(-ish) bracelet, and plenty of fan service in the dial, crystal and bezel for good measure. All without forsaking the single most important detail about the perennially handsome Speedmaster: it is once again flight-qualified by NASA “…for all human space missions.” Speedy collectors may now breathe a collective sigh of relief, this is the worthy successor you wanted.


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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by MKTheVintageBloke » January 5th 2021, 5:30pm

That’s absolutely fucking beautiful. Got to love the return of the „step” dial, and the chrono seconds hand from the 105.012 and 145.012.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by TemerityB » January 5th 2021, 10:30pm

Unfortunately, nothing's going down in price when it's collectible. Thankfully, the pre-owned market remains teeming with these (but I'd wager prices jump on those, too, as everyone will be looking to save a buck or two on 'em).
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by jason_recliner » January 5th 2021, 11:31pm

TemerityB wrote: ↑
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 Unfortunately, nothing's going down in price when it's collectible.
Yeah, I know, not expecting prices to go down in the short term (at least not before discount), but to me 20% is taking the piss. Inflation is low to non-existent, wages for the most part aren't going anywhere, and while it may be collectible it's not exactly exclusive... I'm not seeing anything to justify a 20% rise - 5% seems reasonable to me.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by bedlam » January 6th 2021, 1:21am

Its almost as boring as it's predecessors, almost.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by 3Flushes » January 6th 2021, 1:42pm

Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 12:28pm
bedlam wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 1:21am
 Its almost as boring as it's predecessors, almost.
Boring? Maybe, but went to and was worn on the moon - unlike all the other less boring watches excepting Scott's Bulova - which is just as boring.
That's not the watch that went to the moon any more than my Nikon digital cameras went to the fucking moon. The coaxial movement alone disqualifies the claim despite all the text on the back. It's another Omega special edition based excuse to shove a huge price increase up the asses of fools who will pay the freight; they're more ignorant than the geeks.

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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by Falstaff » January 6th 2021, 1:58pm

3Flushes wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 1:42pm
Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 12:28pm
bedlam wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 1:21am
 Its almost as boring as it's predecessors, almost.
Boring? Maybe, but went to and was worn on the moon - unlike all the other less boring watches excepting Scott's Bulova - which is just as boring.
That's not the watch that went to the moon any more than my Nikon digital cameras went to the fucking moon. The coaxial movement alone disqualifies the claim despite all the text on the back. It's another Omega special edition based excuse to shove a huge price increase up the asses of fools who will pay the freight; they're more ignorant than the geeks.

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Hogwash. Whether that particular watch was actually worn on the lunar surface is irrelevant. Omega Speedmaster Pros were worn on the moon. This is an Omega Speedmaster Pro. If it's a Speedmaster Professional, it's a moon watch - and is still NASA certified for that purpose, complete with coax movement. Fanbois willing to pay the freight? More power to 'em.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by 3Flushes » January 6th 2021, 2:17pm

Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 1:58pm
3Flushes wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 1:42pm
Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 12:28pm
bedlam wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 1:21am
 Its almost as boring as it's predecessors, almost.
Boring? Maybe, but went to and was worn on the moon - unlike all the other less boring watches excepting Scott's Bulova - which is just as boring.
That's not the watch that went to the moon any more than my Nikon digital cameras went to the fucking moon. The coaxial movement alone disqualifies the claim despite all the text on the back. It's another Omega special edition based excuse to shove a huge price increase up the asses of fools who will pay the freight; they're more ignorant than the geeks.

#SHOVETHATFUCKIN'WATCH

Hogwash. Whether that particular watch was actually worn on the lunar surface is irrelevant. Omega Speedmaster Pros were worn on the moon. This is an Omega Speedmaster Pro. If it's a Speedmaster Professional, it's a moon watch - and is still NASA certified for that purpose, complete with coax movement. Fanbois willing to pay the freight? More power to 'em.
More like more power to Omega.

Stand on your head and spit rubber nickels--- They've never made the claim for any other Speedmaster than the original that flew, any more than Hasselblad or Nikon has made such claim for any other camera. "Nikon first on the moon" would be greeted for the fucking horseshit that it would be... and so what? I suspect the current version is not specified as certified- that aint how NASA works- 'we certify anything that sez Speedmaster Pro henceforth, while the original, as long as it was in production to the original specs may have been. I believe Ld. bbattle is employed by NASA- perhaps he could obtain a copy.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by Falstaff » January 6th 2021, 2:44pm

More power to Omega? Yeah, and? I don't know jack about cameras, but if Nikon were still manufacturing a particular model camera body - even with current updates - and it was the same as one taken to the moon and still NASA certified, then they could claim - as does Omega - that it is a "moon camera". They'd sell a bunch. One word - heritage - or do you really imagine that SpeedPro buyers think theirs is the exact same watch? By the bye, I don't stand on my head for anybody - rubber nickels or not.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by 3Flushes » January 6th 2021, 3:49pm

Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 2:44pm
 More power to Omega? Yeah, and? I don't know jack about cameras, but if Nikon were still manufacturing a particular model camera body - even with current updates - and it was the same as one taken to the moon and still NASA certified, then they could claim - as does Omega - that it is a "moon camera". They'd sell a bunch. One word - heritage - or do you really imagine that SpeedPro buyers think theirs is the exact same watch? By the bye, I don't stand on my head for anybody - rubber nickels or not.
Unless the coaxial movement and any other components not native to the certified original watch have been tested for space worthiness, the new version is certified for shit to piss on. Every camera body Nikon provided had to be subjected to NASA's rigorous testing- because the F2 passed did nothin' for the F3, the last body Nikon brought out while I still worked for them that flew on a shuttle.

And while the folks who buy them don't likely believe it's the same watch, the marketing, the text on the case back and unsubstantiated claims of certification for space flight certainly lends a parallel prestige to the watch and cache to the buyer, all of which are unmerited.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by Falstaff » January 6th 2021, 4:12pm

3Flushes wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 3:49pm
Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 2:44pm
 More power to Omega? Yeah, and? I don't know jack about cameras, but if Nikon were still manufacturing a particular model camera body - even with current updates - and it was the same as one taken to the moon and still NASA certified, then they could claim - as does Omega - that it is a "moon camera". They'd sell a bunch. One word - heritage - or do you really imagine that SpeedPro buyers think theirs is the exact same watch? By the bye, I don't stand on my head for anybody - rubber nickels or not.
Unless the coaxial movement and any other components not native to the certified original watch have been tested for space worthiness, the new version is certified for shit to piss on. Every camera body Nikon provided had to be subjected to NASA's rigorous testing- because the F2 passed did nothin' for the F3, the last body Nikon brought out while I still worked for them that flew on a shuttle.

And while the folks who buy them don't likely believe it's the same watch, the marketing, the text on the case back and unsubstantiated claims of certification for space flight certainly lends a parallel prestige to the watch and cache to the buyer, all of which are unmerited.
Nope. Not buyin' it.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by 3Flushes » January 6th 2021, 4:14pm

Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 4:12pm
3Flushes wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 3:49pm
Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 2:44pm
 More power to Omega? Yeah, and? I don't know jack about cameras, but if Nikon were still manufacturing a particular model camera body - even with current updates - and it was the same as one taken to the moon and still NASA certified, then they could claim - as does Omega - that it is a "moon camera". They'd sell a bunch. One word - heritage - or do you really imagine that SpeedPro buyers think theirs is the exact same watch? By the bye, I don't stand on my head for anybody - rubber nickels or not.
Unless the coaxial movement and any other components not native to the certified original watch have been tested for space worthiness, the new version is certified for shit to piss on. Every camera body Nikon provided had to be subjected to NASA's rigorous testing- because the F2 passed did nothin' for the F3, the last body Nikon brought out while I still worked for them that flew on a shuttle.

And while the folks who buy them don't likely believe it's the same watch, the marketing, the text on the case back and unsubstantiated claims of certification for space flight certainly lends a parallel prestige to the watch and cache to the buyer, all of which are unmerited.
Nope. Not buyin' it.
There ya go- I wouldn't buy that piece of shit, either. :mrgreen:

I'ma PM ld. bbattle and see if he can check the records- if IWG or someone at WIT made those claims and they turned out to be bullshit- all hell'd break loose. If the current watch had been submitted I'll gladly eat crow, but since they aint even flying... hey maybe Space-X tested it.
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Re: New Omega Moonwatch

Post by 3Flushes » January 6th 2021, 5:02pm

Falstaff wrote: ↑
January 6th 2021, 4:27pm
 Clearly something other than the bona fides of the SpeedPro distresses you; because the SpeedPro is manifestly not a piece of shit - mechanically or otherwise. What exactly is your Omega beef?
I'm on the record long time about Omega being the champion LE / SE whores (recently overtaken by Seiko), always accompanied by the ridiculous price increase of a trick. Why, my PO is one of my favorite watches.
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