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mortuus aka Misterjingles at wit was banned from this site for good reason. His rant below, posted at bdwf is enlightning.

Default Mort's Trials & Tribs in the North Korea of Watch Websites, Part 1


Hello, All (or at least those of you who have been posting here, hoping for some kind of interaction, ANY kind of interaction), please allow me to respectfully disagree with my friend, John/JAS, who started this thread several months ago.

DO NOT join watchlords OR watchforums, unless you're prepared to have a virtual dossier kept on you that contains anything you might have inadvertently posted that was incorrect, or something the owner considers subversive and an attack on the site, or ANYTHING AT ALL he feels he can use against you. I KNOW this because THAT's what he did to ME.

I was the highest "rank" one could hold over at WL, the "Asshat/Master of Time" designation. My reviews and vintage articles had their own byline at WL, and at one time, I was actually being considered to become the site's alternate administrator. Yet, despite all this, the paranoid who owns and operates both places kept his file updated on me; if I misquoted the NATO designation of an aircraft (which I once did, referring to the F-8 Crusader as the A-8), it was noted for use against me at a later date. (And it WAS used, lemme tell you!)

He even copied my introductory post over at Watchintyme, again looking for "inconsistencies," as he called them. (And, for reasons I will explain later, he found plenty of them.) But he did even better than THOSE things; he has at least one spy at watchlords, someone who monitors the morale and/or activity of those who participate, and if there's anything to report to Kim Un Koi, this guy does so. And how do I know THIS, you ask? Because, when I, out of pure frustration with the way I was being treated over there, wrote a PM that denigrated The Dear Leader, it was immediately forwarded to Alain, owner and administrator of watchlords, who immediately threw it back into my face, along with a collection of items he'd "sussed out" to prove I was not who and what I said I was.

When I owned up to and apologized for the attacking tone of the PM, his reply was chilling, even to me, a 26-year Veteran of the Cold War: My attack on him was actually an attack on the SITE, he said, if you can believe that. Oh well, if Hitler could -- and DID -- once say, "I am Germany," I suppose it's okay if koimaster says, "I am watchlords."


Well, all, in the coming days and weeks, it's my intent to spell out everything that happened over @WL (and @WF, too) that led to my "downfall." It's going to take some time and more than a few entries, but at least some of you will no doubt detect the ring of truth in what I say.

I had long suspected an unpleasant undercurrent over at watchlords, but had written it off to the anger one feels when one is unfairly banned, as many of the members were at the original Watchgeeks site. However, instead of fading away, this undercurrent got more and more pungent, especially after I'd gotten banned there and then reinstated with little or no explanation. In the end, I found out what the stench over there was all about. "The Original and Only Uncensored Watch Forum" was neither.


More to come...

http://thewatchforum.net/forum/showthre ... 474&page=5

You haven't a clue about (1) this discussion, and (2) America. I'm sick of the billowing garbage that emerges from that lump of excrement between your ears, day after fucking day, year after year. Fine, the POL site is all yours now, every last one of you piddling fucks. You can circle jerk and agree with each other all day and be happy in your childish little view of the world. And YOU, chief wanker, can kiss my all-American Fighting Man's ASS...cope with THAT, bitch.

Just one of the posts made by mortuus which I had to warn him about. The discussion about mortuus started in 2015 or so when he was previously banned but was lifted due to members asking me reverse the ban. The persona mortuus projected here was walter mitty like.

He was not injured at the pentagon as he claims in so many posts.
Nor was he a Captain Select before he retired as he has claimed
No claims to have been awarded 2 purple hearts as well.
Never posted from Israel despite claims he was on vacation there but all the posts were from his home area.

Mortuus bullied folks on this forum and despite his online persona he was self centered and quite honestly a bit paranoid. He would attack others if they asked a hard question or had a different take on things.

He was not banned because I did not like him. I had been considering it since his personal attacks on other members in April of this year. He was warned more than once about his behavior. I discussed my thoughts and asked for feedback from members, those whom I know personally and those I know from the boards. It took me two weeks to decide and mort himself made my mind up for me when he lied to me in response to my questions and then attacked John. Coming after me is one thing, I expect it at times and it goes with the territory. Attacking members here or at wfn is a banning offense.

Mortuus knew what he was doing. No one picked on him even though I and several others knew or suspected the truth about him. His scorch earth policy is typical "poor little me" behavior. He was always the hero or the victim. Well fuck that behavior. I lost my hero 12 years ago yesterday and frauds like mortuus could not hold a candle to her. This past week really was the wrong time to piss me off.

Recently mort claimed his late father in law was a minesweeper Captain during WWII. He in fact was not. The man was an ensign during the war. Did Mortuus purloined the part about being a minesweeper Captain from the obit of another man. He learned about his "great friend" who died on 9/11 from findagrave where mortuus hangs out leaving cyper flowers, maintaining virtual gravesites and such.

When I asked him about the discrepancy he changed the subject. No one kept a virtual dossier on him or anyone else. No one spies on anyone here. All of the information regarding mortuus were part of discussions related to his bullshit claims that he alone made on this site and his forum behavior or threats he made.

Yes mortuus is imho a racist, going off on muslims as a race who should be nuked but muslims are not a race, the are members of a religion like any other religion. In this particular case he used his non existent injuries from 9/11 to justify his comments. He did not like minorities and made that clear to lots of folks. He got caught up in his web of lies and his rants as well as his attacks on other members is just more proof he was not officer material.

I consider a personal attack on ANY member of this forum to be an attack on the forum itself and it is a banning offense and has been since day 1.

Mortuus dug his own grave and he can rot in it.


https://watchintyme.com/showthread.php? ... WRUW/page2

Quote from a member here.

A big part of the puzzle to me was the reaction. "Uncensored" is not synonymous with "infinite patience" and if one craps on the coffee table in someone else's home often enough he'll not be invited back. When such things transpire the normal reaction isn't to go to all the neighbor's houses bitching that he's been asked to leave and blaming the dude that noticed the last steaming heap. If said neighbors didn't have a negative appraisal before the unsolicited rants they'll rapidly develop one.

I thought Mort was allright insofar as Air Corpsicle being (to me at least) an obvious joke and service as a Naval Aviator intact but embellished which I take as not reaching the level of fabrication from whole cloth. I also write off the attempt to bludgeon other members - this forum is, after all, the distilled essense of members that bludgeon back. But past history is one thing and the reaction to events is another. The personal and often vitriolic responses, ostensibly inititiated by a simple title change and perhaps whether or not invoking Farrakhan is inherently political, is striking and strongly suggestive that everybody else's appraisal was right all along.

Ever notice how the class year is always missing? In one of his comments to me he mentioned his flying an A7-D and when questioned the response as posted here previously was he must have flown a navy aircraft with D version avionics (bullshit as I had told him clearly that the D version of the A7 was Air Force only, not Navy but with this guy there was always some excuse). By the way, as to his Naval Academy ring, He posted here on the forum at least twice about a former senator getting into the Academy while mort went to a "real" college. So how did he end up claiming or implying he went to Annapolis?

Don,


At the legacy obit for LCDR Toliver in over 100 messages there posted your name never showed up. If he were you best friend as you stated and was pointed out to me I would wonder why you chose not to leave a message. I left one on behalf of the forum.

The aircraft you use in your sig are in fact not yours.

" I checked out the registration numbers on the aircraft pictures and they are both phony. The N672477 is not a valid (assigned) registration number. The other, N21359 is actually currently assigned to a Cessna 182 in Onalaska, Texas. Prior to the Cessna it was assigned to a 1938 Aeronca. A Cessna 182 is a single reciprocating engine, nothing at all like the multi engine Gulfstream jet in his picture for Mortuus Air."

Darksider wrote:

September 25th 2018, 10:58am

(2) I was an exchange officer with the Israeli Armed Forces for the better part of a year; as a Jew, it was a great source of pride and pleasure to have been able to do this, but I largely kept it to myself. I think I may have posted a picture of a flight jacket I wore over there, along with a watch of the same or similar color, but that's about as close as I came to mentioning it.

We have a home in Hermosa Beach, CA, and another home near Haifa, in Israel. Both places keep us well supplied with sand, and make for an interesting commute several times a year!
http://watchintyme.com/forum.php

There has never been a post from Israel by you even when you were posting while claiming to be in Israel.

The F-8 Crusader was an aircraft that was long gone from the USN inventory when I was pinned with my navy Wings of Gold; it had been replaced by the F-14 (in its frontline fighter role) and it's [very] limited attack role was taken up by the already extant A-7E Corsair II (my aircraft) and the A-6 Intruder. I mention all of this because the "A-8" reference was nothing more than the result of a momentary confusion made by a servicemember (me) who never had any direct contact with that particular platform; I knew the aircraft simply as the Crusader, and its US/NATO nomenclature/appellation was of no significance to me. It would have been the same if Cods had mentioned the Cutlas or the Cougar or the Banshee, all aircraft from the USN's past, but not from MY time; I imagine that there are many retired USN flyers who wouldn't know these attendant nomenclatura, even the most recent. In other words, it was a simple, honest mistake that you blew way out of proportion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Not exactly true as in your intro post here you discussed the A-8 which cod corrected to the F-8 with Cod and how it flew off a deck. Furthermore the F-8 was used as a photo reconnaissance aircraft through 1987 so it was not gone as you claim.

Also from your intro post -

hawkeye » February 5th 2012, 10:09am

Welcome aboard
Mortuus!
Just a old Qm2 here,the Ouellet (FF-1077) was my old boat.I served 84-89.I have seen the crusaders they were still flying off the Midway,on my 1st westpac.I did 2 westpacs and a northpac.
Dave

As to the SLUFF [or SLUF, if you prefer] D version, I don't recall ever claiming to have flown one before. However, I may have actually flown a modified D very briefly during my type training phase; it was rumored that some of the a/c we flew during that phase were old USAF "D" trainers with updated avionics. IF I said anything about "D" stick-time, it would have been in relation to that rumor, but again, I don't think I ever did.

Newbie Here from Americas Finest City!

Post by Mortuus » April 28th 2015, 6:51am

I'm retired USN (26 years). Drove SLUFF D's & E's, then Hornet E's. Then wound up halfway under a slab of cement in the Pentagon on 9/11. 17 surgeries over a 28-month period. Re-learned how to both walk and talk...at the same time, even. Now I fly dead people around in GS-550-H's (and, soon, in GS-650's). Oh, and I'm dead... [and you get a provisional welcome because, well, we just don't do grab-assing in these parts...]

"In the End, we will be remembered not for the words of our enemies, but for the silence of our friends." - Dr. Martin Luther King
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So now you can intercept PM's, huh? Well congratulations to you, Alain; you win the Sentaor Joe McCarthy Award for Paranoia... And if you CAN'T intercept them, then one of the recipients of the PM has betrayed me.

And, yes, I obviously wrote that message; I was angry and upset about losing something I was very proud of. And, yes, I referred to you in less-than-polite terms, admittedly more insultingly than the 'offense' probably required. I was pissed off at you, and that's why I wrote what I did. (I HAVE, however, written worse things than that during our arguments in the political forums, so THIS was nothing by comparison.) At any rate I apologize for the contents of the PM and hope you will accept that apology, including the crack about Joe McCarthy above. (Still I HAVE to say that I AM surprised that you, of all people, would access PM's like that, Alain; I'd MUCH prefer that it were one of my best WL friends betraying me than your doing such a thing as that

I never paid much attention to him in his early time here. Wasn't he banned initially for posting fakes?

foghorn wrote:I never paid much attention to him in his early time here. Wasn't he banned initially for posting fakes?

I believe there was talk about banning him because he was posting pics of, IIRC, a fake Cartier. Ironically, I was one of the members who stuck up for him, saying he should get a second chance.

Damn. I actually questioned why he was banned. Little did I know.

The best interest of the forum was at hand and the right decisions were made from everyone, imo.

I bet Mort didn't think about how small the watch forum world ( at least the cool places ) is these days when he went nuclear.

Edit: and that bullshit he has pulled at other forums would be worthy of a punch in the mouth in the real world.

Wait what?? Mort posted a watch review here?

Please tell me it wasn't emblazoned with commodes........

family and went on an outing over the weekend and found the A-7 mort flew.

I went to the Museum of Flight last weekend, and try as I might, wasn't able to find a A-8 anywhere!

Did run across a Vought F-8 Crusader though.......

^^^^^

Great looking aircraft even 50 years out. Looks like an F-86 Sabre next to it.

Well Mr. Jingles, you have taken too many shots at this forum in the last 8 months since you were banned for the second time. You told stories here and you continue them at your new site. So be it but I do not like receiving emails about you from members there either blaming me for being a bully in regards to you or telling me how unpatriotic is was to ban you. A bit of a reality check for you and your buddies there. Most of the posts below are yours, some sent to me by members of WIT. By the way, did you ever tell Road Warrior that you informed me he was a spy for WIT, spying on Watchlords to report back to WIT? I have no idea why anyone would need to spy on this forum. It is open with over 100 forums and sub-forums open to the public. Members only forums are just that as is the political forum which is by request only. So "spying" on the forum is a waste of time but hey, if it makes you feel good about yourself, go for it.

There has never been a "virtual dossier" about you or anyone else. Your paranoia is your own problem just as was your claim that I could read private messages. In fact I went as far as posting a photo of the admin panel showing all of the "hacks" installed. No ability to read messages nor would there ever be. You and you alone are responsible for getting yourself banned here. You illegally used the registration numbers of other aircraft on your photo shopped air planes.




You managed to get folks suspicious of you all by yourself and they contacted me and then they followed up. For the record, I could care less if you were in the service or not nor what you did if you did serve. I do care that you attacked members here in violation of the TOS and I had to warn you more than once to stop it. I do care that you were banned once before here because of your attacks on members and those members asked me to give you a second chance. I do care that you attacked a well respected member here on the forum and at two other sites. I do care that even though those posts were removed, you persisted in posting them to harm him and blame him for problems you were causing.

You are quite the piece of work Jingles. You make yourself out to be the hero, the center of attention and at the same time, the victim being harassed by a "stalker", the evil members of Watchlords and the it seems, the world in general. That is fine, I run the place so I will take the blame as the bad guy but I am going to give you some advice, according to Article 2 of UCMJ, "Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay" are covered by UCMJ which means it you are claiming medals or other things and it is not true, you can be court-martialed. I suggest you think about that. I am done with you jingles and so are members here. I have until today refrained from doing much about you but your behavior strikes me less of an officer and more of some displaced watchgeek. As to Watchintyme since that is where you currently hold court, I am glad to hear that many of them have decided to try other brands or have decided that some brands lie but at least they know what they are buying which was the original intent of this site.

As to your collecting of military items, fine with me, I am grateful that there are military memorabilia collectors out there who preserve history and allow us to share in it.

Maybe there is a list of 911 injured at the Pentagon? Some type of verification of service similar to the way the Seal group exposed Mongo Kid? Twenty six years of service and retiring O-4 makes him sound like a bit of a fuck up or he was busted for something-at the least.

Alain,
I have found one of the pics that Mort uses (after photoshopping) it is a Gulfstream G550 taking off from a runway in Bologna, Italy. The aircraft is registered to a GAMA aviation. It's registration number is MPBKI which means it is registered in the Isle of Man. I can't find the other picture, but based on the paint I would guess that it is N96UA which is registered in the US to Under Armour . I'll look some more later.

^^^^^^^^^^
Intro Post. It is SLUF not SLUFF unless you are a model builder. No fucking pilot who ever flew the SLUF would call it anything else and the A-7D you claim to have flown was Air Force ONLY. No Navy flyboys needed to apply. I in fact told you that the D was Air Force only and you came up with some cock and bullshit story.

SLUF aka short little ugly fucker! not short little fat fellow. Model makers use the acronym SLUFF term.



https://www.airvectors.net/ava7.html#m2

As to the SLUFF [or SLUF, if you prefer] D version, I don't recall ever claiming to have flown one before. However, I may have actually flown a modified D very briefly during my type training phase; it was rumored that some of the a/c we flew during that phase were old USAF "D" trainers with updated avionics. IF I said anything about "D" stick-time, it would have been in relation to that rumor, but again, I don't think I ever did.

(1) I actually retired as a CAPT(Select) from the USN; what that means is I was selected for O-6, but retired before my actual promotion date. But I never referred to myself as CAPT(Select), nor did I mention this selection for promotion to anyone, either HERE, @WF or @BDWF. (For the record, though, it states CDR/O-5, not O-6/CAPT, on my ID card, which is normal, because that was my rank at the time of my retirement.)

(2) I was an exchange officer with the Israeli Armed Forces for the better part of a year; as a Jew, it was a great source of pride and pleasure to have been able to do this, but I largely kept it to myself. I think I may have posted a picture of a flight jacket I wore over there, along with a watch of the same or similar color, but that's about as close as I came to mentioning it.

(3) I AM the recipient of the Legion of Merit. In point of fact, it was my RETIREMENT award, something that, in USN circles, is not at ALL an unusual award for an O-6 select. But even so, I have numerous friends who received that award as an O-5, so any blanket statement about who does and who doesn't get an award like that is a chancy thing. I received that LOM (which is what WE used to call it until just a few years ago) on the day I retired, and never got to wear it other than on the day it was pinned to me.

And, finally:

So now you can intercept PM's, huh? Well congratulations to you, Alain; you win the Sentaor Joe McCarthy Award for Paranoia... And if you CAN'T intercept them, then one of the recipients of the PM has betrayed me.

And, yes, I obviously wrote that message; I was angry and upset about losing something I was very proud of. And, yes, I referred to you in less-than-polite terms, admittedly more insultingly than the 'offense' probably required. I was pissed off at you, and that's why I wrote what I did. (I HAVE, however, written worse things than that during our arguments in the political forums, so THIS was nothing by comparison.) At any rate I apologize for the contents of the PM and hope you will accept that apology, including the crack about Joe McCarthy above. (Still I HAVE to say that I AM surprised that you, of all people, would access PM's like that, Alain; I'd MUCH prefer that it were one of my best WL friends betraying me than your doing such a thing as that.)

So now you can intercept PM's, huh? Well congratulations to you, Alain; you win the Sentaor Joe McCarthy Award for Paranoia... And if you CAN'T intercept them, then one of the recipients of the PM has betrayed me.

And, yes, I obviously wrote that message; I was angry and upset about losing something I was very proud of. And, yes, I referred to you in less-than-polite terms, admittedly more insultingly than the 'offense' probably required. I was pissed off at you, and that's why I wrote what I did. (I HAVE, however, written worse things than that during our arguments in the political forums, so THIS was nothing by comparison.) At any rate I apologize for the contents of the PM and hope you will accept that apology, including the crack about Joe McCarthy above. (Still I HAVE to say that I AM surprised that you, of all people, would access PM's like that, Alain; I'd MUCH prefer that it were one of my best WL friends betraying me than your doing such a thing as that

Betrayed you? I think you have that backwards. You attempted to cause the forum harm by going after me and that is gutless. You call me names (Mr. Bipolar) or (the petty workings of that permanent man-child's mind). Despite all of your so called apologies I think of you as a petty little man with an over-sized ego. You go after people like Carl or Eddiea and others like some keyboard commando.

My response to this from Misterjingles is below.

Your claim about being proud about your military service may in part be true but you also attempt to use it like a bludgeon on those who do not think like you. You use it to make yourself better than others when in fact everyone puts a pair of pants on the same way. Everything is about poor old mort. There are many, many Vets on WL and here at WFN. [b](updated to Bestdamnwatchforum aka BDWF)

Not one has ever mentioned as often as you do their time in the service. svaglic was a firefighter (Fire Chief) in the Army, Max has never spoken about his service, nor have many of the others. Only you talk about your 26 years of Military service over and over again. You remind me of a man named Mr. Johnson as he was my father's age. He told everyone all of the time he was in the Navy during WWII but he forgot that my father was served in WWII as did the fathers and in some cases, the mothers of all of the kids in the neighborhood. It is a watch forum, not a pissing contest on some military related board.

Watchlords and watchforums.net are bigger than you, me or anyone one member. That was proven 4 years ago when the forum went on without me due to my injuries and subsequent recovery for months.

I will decide what will happen by this weekend. In the meantime your account is suspended at WL.
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Of course a real Naval Aviator had to fix your post for you. I

















I was sent this link by two members of this forum pointing out that there is no reference to you between 2005-2007 as a Captain Select. I assume since it is an official navy site that they made a mistake of omission.

https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/ ... N2007.aspx


And how do you claim to have gone to Annapolis aka the Naval Academy?
Your own words in a thread about John McCain passing away which you turned into a political one forcing me to move it into the political forum.

Mine goes back to his USN service. Hey, I’ve no trouble with his four years as a cadet in the U. S. Naval Academy, a place that is difficult to get into, unless your daddy and granddaddy went there…oh, wait… Anyway, as I went to a real college, I’ve no comment to make regarding his years there, other than to say that, to get an aviation billet out of the academy, you had to have a lot of smarts…unless your daddy & granddaddy, um, nevermind…

Same thread -

John Songbird]. McCain’s remains are to be interred at the U. S. Naval Academy. [b]And even though I went to a real college, the thought of that skunk’s remains threatening the Annapolis water tables makes me want to break out the airsick bags all over again.

Now, if you’re one of those people who’re going to get upset with me for what I’ve said above, I regret that I’ve plopped a big ‘ol turd in your punchbowl with what I’ve said here. After all, you’re entitled to your opinion, too, and I respect that opine of yours, even if it’s 180-degrees opposite mine. But I do have to ask you something, though: what color is the sky in your world?

//Mort is Winchester and RTB, state 2.2, angels 24//[/b]

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Please notice something else as well. He has recently claimed to have attended the Naval Academy but we all know he did not. Even so, he has made a big deal of his claim of 26 years of service dating back from his alleged retirement in 2007. That would be 1981 yet he claims to have worked at Record Warehouse until 82 and into the mid 80s in his post as well. When did he find time to go to college let alone Annapolis?

I will also note the way he speaks about his wife. A true class act.












The rank of Gunnery Sergeant was replaced by technical sergeant in 1946 until restored in 1959, when the crossed rifles insignia were added to Marine chevrons so I am curious how he passed the exam for Gunnery Sgt in 1953.





Two Purple Hearts? Did you get one for your non-existent injuries on 9/11 and the other from being hit by a flying donut?





And your rather interesting excuse as to why you photoshopped a photo of a brave man to suit your agenda.

https://watchintyme.com/showthread.php? ... light=SPAD

I have nothing but respect for the man you say is your father but none for you. Your father had a good life and career but I fail to understand how you think embellishing it to suit your purposes would increase his already well earned and respected life. He has gone from being a Staff Sergeant in the Corp (a Hero from the Korean war) and then an Intelligence Officer in the Navy to being the non existent rank of "Gunnery Sgt" when no such rank existed at the time you claim. He has had a photo altered to fit your story about being a pilot and "blood wings", an Airborne tradition seldom seen in the Navy since Vietnam. Did it make you feel Macho posting that? By your photo shopping fake wings into that photo you erased the honors your father so proudly displayed, honors he earned.



^^^^^^^^

real photo of naval aviator with wings above the ribbon bar.

Default Mort's Trials & Tribs in the North Korea of Watch Websites, Part 1


Hello, All (or at least those of you who have been posting here, hoping for some kind of interaction, ANY kind of interaction), please allow me to respectfully disagree with my friend, John/JAS, who started this thread several months ago.

DO NOT join watchlords OR watchforums, unless you're prepared to have a virtual dossier kept on you that contains anything you might have inadvertently posted that was incorrect, or something the owner considers subversive and an attack on the site, or ANYTHING AT ALL he feels he can use against you. I KNOW this because THAT's what he did to ME.

I was the highest "rank" one could hold over at WL, the "Asshat/Master of Time" designation. My reviews and vintage articles had their own byline at WL, and at one time, I was actually being considered to become the site's alternate administrator. Yet, despite all this, the paranoid who owns and operates both places kept his file updated on me; if I misquoted the NATO designation of an aircraft (which I once did, referring to the F-8 Crusader as the A-8), it was noted for use against me at a later date. (And it WAS used, lemme tell you!)

He even copied my introductory post over at Watchintyme, again looking for "inconsistencies," as he called them. (And, for reasons I will explain later, he found plenty of them.) But he did even better than THOSE things; he has at least one spy at watchlords, someone who monitors the morale and/or activity of those who participate, and if there's anything to report to Kim Un Koi, this guy does so. And how do I know THIS, you ask? Because, when I, out of pure frustration with the way I was being treated over there, wrote a PM that denigrated The Dear Leader, it was immediately forwarded to Alain, owner and administrator of watchlords, who immediately threw it back into my face, along with a collection of items he'd "sussed out" to prove I was not who and what I said I was.

When I owned up to and apologized for the attacking tone of the PM, his reply was chilling, even to me, a 26-year Veteran of the Cold War: My attack on him was actually an attack on the SITE, he said, if you can believe that. Oh well, if Hitler could -- and DID -- once say, "I am Germany," I suppose it's okay if koimaster says, "I am watchlords."


Well, all, in the coming days and weeks, it's my intent to spell out everything that happened over @WL (and @WF, too) that led to my "downfall." It's going to take some time and more than a few entries, but at least some of you will no doubt detect the ring of truth in what I say.

I had long suspected an unpleasant undercurrent over at watchlords, but had written it off to the anger one feels when one is unfairly banned, as many of the members were at the original Watchgeeks site. However, instead of fading away, this undercurrent got more and more pungent, especially after I'd gotten banned there and then reinstated with little or no explanation. In the end, I found out what the stench over there was all about. "The Original and Only Uncensored Watch Forum" was neither.


More to come...

I was the highest "rank" one could hold over at WL, the "Asshat/Master of Time" designation. My reviews and vintage articles had their own byline at WL, and at one time, I was actually being considered to become the site's alternate administrator. Yet, despite all this, the paranoid who owns and operates both places kept his file updated on me; if I misquoted the NATO designation of an aircraft (which I once did, referring to the F-8 Crusader as the A-8), it was noted for use against me at a later date. (And it WAS used, lemme tell you!)

Highest RANK is "FOUNDER" and that is me and at NO time were you ever considered to an an assistant admin here. I have no idea what would have made you think something like that as there are folks here that I have known and trusted for many years and you were not one of them. Let put this into perspective for you and for your readers, while I was recovering from the auto accident and the injuries I had, the founding members of this forum were responsible for it and took very good care of it. They are the folks I trust to run this forum and they are the folks I ask advice from when I have to decide something such as [b]banning you for the 2ND TIME!




Your attack on another member in violation of the 9 year old TOS (that is terms of service for those who claim to be a 9/11 survivor)

You haven't a clue about (1) this discussion, and (2) America. I'm sick of the billowing garbage that emerges from that lump of excrement between your ears, day after fucking day, year after year. Fine, the POL site is all yours now, every last one of you piddling fucks. You can circle jerk and agree with each other all day and be happy in your childish little view of the world. And YOU, chief wanker, can kiss my all-American Fighting Man's ASS...cope with THAT, bitch.

As one person put it in regards to you

A big part of the puzzle to me was the reaction. "Uncensored" is not synonymous with "infinite patience" and if one craps on the coffee table in someone else's home often enough he'll not be invited back. When such things transpire the normal reaction isn't to go to all the neighbor's houses bitching that he's been asked to leave and blaming the dude that noticed the last steaming heap. If said neighbors didn't have a negative appraisal before the unsolicited rants they'll rapidly develop one.

I thought Mort was allright insofar as Air Corpsicle being (to me at least) an obvious joke and service as a Naval Aviator intact but embellished which I take as not reaching the level of fabrication from whole cloth. I also write off the attempt to bludgeon other members - this forum is, after all, the distilled essense of members that bludgeon back. But past history is one thing and the reaction to events is another. The personal and often vitriolic responses, ostensibly inititiated by a simple title change and perhaps whether or not invoking Farrakhan is inherently political, is striking and strongly suggestive that everybody else's appraisal was right all along.

Oh and to just finish this off, quotes from you on your flight time in the F/A18. Big difference between less than a couple of hundred hours and over 3000. You forgot what lies you had said previously and this is just the last one I am posting.......In your own words.



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And then there was the 3000 hours in the F/A18 claim. Too many lies to remember eh? And do not try to say you messed up which one you meant, the A-7 or F/A18. A pilot does not make that mistake.



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What an idiot. I suggest to ignore him, but that is up to You

What's the dumb fuck gone and done now??

Put it in the open. We blasted Turdling and Nismo, we should blast Mort too.
Let every forum out there have access to who he really is.

Edit. Yamahaka, that’s who I meant instead of Nismo, or were they the same?

gerdson wrote:What an idiot. I suggest to ignore him, but that is up to You

I have been ignoring him but it seems he does not learn. Aside from his not so veiled taunts against WL, he is still lying through his teeth about us AND his history. Reminds me a lot of Sean Adams aka yamahaka. I know how you feel about this which is why I am putting it here for you ladies and gents to review and advise.

conjurer wrote:What's the dumb fuck gone and done now??

Just being the same dick he has always been.

Well, since he's just doing the same low-level shit (boasting to the WIT-less), I wouldn't bother making this all public.

I don't say that because of any love for the guy, the fuck. But all this info is like the knock on the door early in the morning in the Soviet Union--it might come sometime, any time. Old Mort probably doesn't sleep too well at night, knowing all this can come down on him like a ton of bricks. Just the thought of this makes me smile.

Also, this is the only leverage we have on the cocksucker. Honestly, I doubt it would make too much difference to the WITs, anyway.

To what end?
Those who care already know.
Those who don't care, don't care.

Fuck the fake aviator! Here is a real one ! RIP and thank you for your service!
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tu ... 9-n1020751

Either way, fuck that creepy weirdo.

WIT is still around? Maybe slightly less surprising than Mort still hanging around. Just shows that cockroaches are amazingly adaptable.









If you are a WIT, don't get your panties in a bunch I am referring to Mort.

A guy goes away for a couple years - and the whole world never changes.
We all KNOW Konjurer is a rat and WEE-ZELL!
Evident from the furst

boscoe wrote: ↑

May 28th 2020, 1:49pm

A guy goes away for a couple years - and the whole world never changes.
We all KNOW Konjurer is a rat and WEE-ZELL!
Evident from the furst

Twisted mofo. Been gone a long time now; now he shows off his Invicters and Sturdlings and whatever, all after a couple of years joining in here on threads where he bashed 'em.

What a fucking loser.

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May 28th 2020, 7:40pm

Twisted mofo. Been gone a long time now; now he shows off his Invicters and Sturdlings and whatever, all after a couple of years joining in here on threads where he bashed 'em.

What a fucking loser.

In comic sans, no less. It's like his entire life was a Looney Tunes film.

He’s one of those dudes that Koi characterized in that guy Mr. Johnson... Blah Blah Blah, I’m somebody gawddamn it! The ostentatiously stolen valor is really REALLY fucking annoying, though. That, and the fact that he just won’t shut the fuck up. Imagine sitting next to this guy on a plane ride?

“Yep. Which is like a MILLION dollars in American money. Uh-huh. And then, when they called me out of retirement I used my super-secret helicopter training background to fly into and land in hostile territory that I can not say specifically where it was... But I can say that I ran inside, shot Osama, and then took all of his porn! And I’d just like to point out, I am NOT lying, but it’s hard to confirm because of my Space Force X9 credentials there is a hold on my file {insert incoherent ramble about government process and procedure}

“Gee, that’s swell. One question: Do you EVER SHUT THE FUCK UP!!? Sh-shut it, man! Sshut it up. Shuuut your gawddamn mouth or Imma open the door and I don’t care how many die as long as I’m one of them!”

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May 29th 2020, 7:41pm

He’s one of those dudes that Koi characterized in that guy Mr. Johnson... Blah Blah Blah, I’m somebody gawddamn it! The ostentatiously stolen valor is really REALLY fucking annoying, though. That, and the fact that he just won’t shut the fuck up. Imagine sitting next to this guy on a plane ride?

“Yep. Which is like a MILLION dollars in American money. Uh-huh. And then, when they called me out of retirement I used my super-secret helicopter training background to fly into and land in hostile territory that I can not say specifically where it was... But I can say that I ran inside, shot Osama, and then took all of his porn! And I’d just like to point out, I am NOT lying, but it’s hard to confirm because of my Space Force X9 credentials there is a hold on my file {insert incoherent ramble about government process and procedure}

“Gee, that’s swell. One question: Do you EVER SHUT THE FUCK UP!!? Sh-shut it, man! Sshut it up. Shuuut your gawddamn mouth or Imma open the door and I don’t care how many die as long as I’m one of them!”

I enjoyed the H-E-double hockey sticks out of this post!