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Default Mort's Trials & Tribs in the North Korea of Watch Websites, Part 1
Hello, All (or at least those of you who have been posting here, hoping for some kind of interaction, ANY kind of interaction), please allow me to respectfully disagree with my friend, John/JAS, who started this thread several months ago.
DO NOT join watchlords OR watchforums, unless you're prepared to have a virtual dossier kept on you that contains anything you might have inadvertently posted that was incorrect, or something the owner considers subversive and an attack on the site, or ANYTHING AT ALL he feels he can use against you. I KNOW this because THAT's what he did to ME.
I was the highest "rank" one could hold over at WL, the "Asshat/Master of Time" designation. My reviews and vintage articles had their own byline at WL, and at one time, I was actually being considered to become the site's alternate administrator. Yet, despite all this, the paranoid who owns and operates both places kept his file updated on me; if I misquoted the NATO designation of an aircraft (which I once did, referring to the F-8 Crusader as the A-8), it was noted for use against me at a later date. (And it WAS used, lemme tell you!)
He even copied my introductory post over at Watchintyme, again looking for "inconsistencies," as he called them. (And, for reasons I will explain later, he found plenty of them.) But he did even better than THOSE things; he has at least one spy at watchlords, someone who monitors the morale and/or activity of those who participate, and if there's anything to report to Kim Un Koi, this guy does so. And how do I know THIS, you ask? Because, when I, out of pure frustration with the way I was being treated over there, wrote a PM that denigrated The Dear Leader, it was immediately forwarded to Alain, owner and administrator of watchlords, who immediately threw it back into my face, along with a collection of items he'd "sussed out" to prove I was not who and what I said I was.
When I owned up to and apologized for the attacking tone of the PM, his reply was chilling, even to me, a 26-year Veteran of the Cold War: My attack on him was actually an attack on the SITE, he said, if you can believe that. Oh well, if Hitler could -- and DID -- once say, "I am Germany," I suppose it's okay if koimaster says, "I am watchlords."
Well, all, in the coming days and weeks, it's my intent to spell out everything that happened over @WL (and @WF, too) that led to my "downfall." It's going to take some time and more than a few entries, but at least some of you will no doubt detect the ring of truth in what I say.
I had long suspected an unpleasant undercurrent over at watchlords, but had written it off to the anger one feels when one is unfairly banned, as many of the members were at the original Watchgeeks site. However, instead of fading away, this undercurrent got more and more pungent, especially after I'd gotten banned there and then reinstated with little or no explanation. In the end, I found out what the stench over there was all about. "The Original and Only Uncensored Watch Forum" was neither.
More to come...
http://thewatchforum.net/forum/showthre ... 474&page=5
Just one of the posts made by mortuus which I had to warn him about. The discussion about mortuus started in 2015 or so when he was previously banned but was lifted due to members asking me reverse the ban. The persona mortuus projected here was walter mitty like.You haven't a clue about (1) this discussion, and (2) America. I'm sick of the billowing garbage that emerges from that lump of excrement between your ears, day after fucking day, year after year. Fine, the POL site is all yours now, every last one of you piddling fucks. You can circle jerk and agree with each other all day and be happy in your childish little view of the world. And YOU, chief wanker, can kiss my all-American Fighting Man's ASS...cope with THAT, bitch.
He was not injured at the pentagon as he claims in so many posts.
Nor was he a Captain Select before he retired as he has claimed
No claims to have been awarded 2 purple hearts as well.
Never posted from Israel despite claims he was on vacation there but all the posts were from his home area.
Mortuus bullied folks on this forum and despite his online persona he was self centered and quite honestly a bit paranoid. He would attack others if they asked a hard question or had a different take on things.
He was not banned because I did not like him. I had been considering it since his personal attacks on other members in April of this year. He was warned more than once about his behavior. I discussed my thoughts and asked for feedback from members, those whom I know personally and those I know from the boards. It took me two weeks to decide and mort himself made my mind up for me when he lied to me in response to my questions and then attacked John. Coming after me is one thing, I expect it at times and it goes with the territory. Attacking members here or at wfn is a banning offense.
Mortuus knew what he was doing. No one picked on him even though I and several others knew or suspected the truth about him. His scorch earth policy is typical "poor little me" behavior. He was always the hero or the victim. Well fuck that behavior. I lost my hero 12 years ago yesterday and frauds like mortuus could not hold a candle to her. This past week really was the wrong time to piss me off.
Recently mort claimed his late father in law was a minesweeper Captain during WWII. He in fact was not. The man was an ensign during the war. Did Mortuus purloined the part about being a minesweeper Captain from the obit of another man. He learned about his "great friend" who died on 9/11 from findagrave where mortuus hangs out leaving cyper flowers, maintaining virtual gravesites and such.
When I asked him about the discrepancy he changed the subject. No one kept a virtual dossier on him or anyone else. No one spies on anyone here. All of the information regarding mortuus were part of discussions related to his bullshit claims that he alone made on this site and his forum behavior or threats he made.
Yes mortuus is imho a racist, going off on muslims as a race who should be nuked but muslims are not a race, the are members of a religion like any other religion. In this particular case he used his non existent injuries from 9/11 to justify his comments. He did not like minorities and made that clear to lots of folks. He got caught up in his web of lies and his rants as well as his attacks on other members is just more proof he was not officer material.
I consider a personal attack on ANY member of this forum to be an attack on the forum itself and it is a banning offense and has been since day 1.
Mortuus dug his own grave and he can rot in it.
https://watchintyme.com/showthread.php? ... WRUW/page2
Quote from a member here.
A big part of the puzzle to me was the reaction. "Uncensored" is not synonymous with "infinite patience" and if one craps on the coffee table in someone else's home often enough he'll not be invited back. When such things transpire the normal reaction isn't to go to all the neighbor's houses bitching that he's been asked to leave and blaming the dude that noticed the last steaming heap. If said neighbors didn't have a negative appraisal before the unsolicited rants they'll rapidly develop one.
I thought Mort was allright insofar as Air Corpsicle being (to me at least) an obvious joke and service as a Naval Aviator intact but embellished which I take as not reaching the level of fabrication from whole cloth. I also write off the attempt to bludgeon other members - this forum is, after all, the distilled essense of members that bludgeon back. But past history is one thing and the reaction to events is another. The personal and often vitriolic responses, ostensibly inititiated by a simple title change and perhaps whether or not invoking Farrakhan is inherently political, is striking and strongly suggestive that everybody else's appraisal was right all along.
Ever notice how the class year is always missing? In one of his comments to me he mentioned his flying an A7-D and when questioned the response as posted here previously was he must have flown a navy aircraft with D version avionics (bullshit as I had told him clearly that the D version of the A7 was Air Force only, not Navy but with this guy there was always some excuse). By the way, as to his Naval Academy ring, He posted here on the forum at least twice about a former senator getting into the Academy while mort went to a "real" college. So how did he end up claiming or implying he went to Annapolis?
At the legacy obit for LCDR Toliver in over 100 messages there posted your name never showed up. If he were you best friend as you stated and was pointed out to me I would wonder why you chose not to leave a message. I left one on behalf of the forum.
The aircraft you use in your sig are in fact not yours.
" I checked out the registration numbers on the aircraft pictures and they are both phony. The N672477 is not a valid (assigned) registration number. The other, N21359 is actually currently assigned to a Cessna 182 in Onalaska, Texas. Prior to the Cessna it was assigned to a 1938 Aeronca. A Cessna 182 is a single reciprocating engine, nothing at all like the multi engine Gulfstream jet in his picture for Mortuus Air."
Darksider wrote:September 25th 2018, 10:58am(2) I was an exchange officer with the Israeli Armed Forces for the better part of a year; as a Jew, it was a great source of pride and pleasure to have been able to do this, but I largely kept it to myself. I think I may have posted a picture of a flight jacket I wore over there, along with a watch of the same or similar color, but that's about as close as I came to mentioning it.
We have a home in Hermosa Beach, CA, and another home near Haifa, in Israel. Both places keep us well supplied with sand, and make for an interesting commute several times a year!
There has never been a post from Israel by you even when you were posting while claiming to be in Israel.
The F-8 Crusader was an aircraft that was long gone from the USN inventory when I was pinned with my navy Wings of Gold; it had been replaced by the F-14 (in its frontline fighter role) and it's [very] limited attack role was taken up by the already extant A-7E Corsair II (my aircraft) and the A-6 Intruder. I mention all of this because the "A-8" reference was nothing more than the result of a momentary confusion made by a servicemember (me) who never had any direct contact with that particular platform; I knew the aircraft simply as the Crusader, and its US/NATO nomenclature/appellation was of no significance to me. It would have been the same if Cods had mentioned the Cutlas or the Cougar or the Banshee, all aircraft from the USN's past, but not from MY time; I imagine that there are many retired USN flyers who wouldn't know these attendant nomenclatura, even the most recent. In other words, it was a simple, honest mistake that you blew way out of proportion. Nothing more, nothing less.
Not exactly true as in your intro post here you discussed the A-8 which cod corrected to the F-8 with Cod and how it flew off a deck. Furthermore the F-8 was used as a photo reconnaissance aircraft through 1987 so it was not gone as you claim.
Also from your intro post -
hawkeye » February 5th 2012, 10:09am
Just a old Qm2 here,the Ouellet (FF-1077) was my old boat.I served 84-89.I have seen the crusaders they were still flying off the Midway,on my 1st westpac.I did 2 westpacs and a northpac.
DaveAs to the SLUFF [or SLUF, if you prefer] D version, I don't recall ever claiming to have flown one before. However, I may have actually flown a modified D very briefly during my type training phase; it was rumored that some of the a/c we flew during that phase were old USAF "D" trainers with updated avionics. IF I said anything about "D" stick-time, it would have been in relation to that rumor, but again, I don't think I ever did.Newbie Here from Americas Finest City!
Post by Mortuus » April 28th 2015, 6:51am
I'm retired USN (26 years). Drove SLUFF D's & E's, then Hornet E's. Then wound up halfway under a slab of cement in the Pentagon on 9/11. 17 surgeries over a 28-month period. Re-learned how to both walk and talk...at the same time, even. Now I fly dead people around in GS-550-H's (and, soon, in GS-650's). Oh, and I'm dead... [and you get a provisional welcome because, well, we just don't do grab-assing in these parts...]
"In the End, we will be remembered not for the words of our enemies, but for the silence of our friends." - Dr. Martin Luther King
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=29536&p=307487&hilit=pentagon#p307487So now you can intercept PM's, huh? Well congratulations to you, Alain; you win the Sentaor Joe McCarthy Award for Paranoia... And if you CAN'T intercept them, then one of the recipients of the PM has betrayed me.
And, yes, I obviously wrote that message; I was angry and upset about losing something I was very proud of. And, yes, I referred to you in less-than-polite terms, admittedly more insultingly than the 'offense' probably required. I was pissed off at you, and that's why I wrote what I did. (I HAVE, however, written worse things than that during our arguments in the political forums, so THIS was nothing by comparison.) At any rate I apologize for the contents of the PM and hope you will accept that apology, including the crack about Joe McCarthy above. (Still I HAVE to say that I AM surprised that you, of all people, would access PM's like that, Alain; I'd MUCH prefer that it were one of my best WL friends betraying me than your doing such a thing as that
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