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Re: Tudor Black Bay

Post by WISenheimer » June 21st 2024, 12:29pm

Blame it on the information economy.

It is now routine to be able to accurately predict the profits on a reimagining, reissue, or slight variation on a theme as opposed to something novel and unprecedented.

Corporatism gravitates towards guaranteed outcomes as opposed to uncertain outcomes. The inability of info systems to predict outcomes of novel propositions drives decision making to sequels. Base hits, no swinging for the bleachers.

This trend has spread across most consumer product and entertainment industries the past several decades. Hence, all the movie franchises in Hollywood, no new pop musical styles etc.

Seiko used to be very averse to reissues, explicitly stated this as a matter of core philosophy as recently as the early 2010s but look at them now.

This is just the tip of the iceberg, AI will be supercharging this trend.

Spent 30 years in IT on cutting edge, got patents etc. when I got into it in 90s, it was the most exciting thing, dawn of a new era, all sorts of promise of a bright future beckoning.

Instead it seems to have led to a dystopic state where little ever changes. Pretty disheartening and I wish now to have as little engagement as possible with it.

As codguy notes, shame what happened to Black Bay. But unfortunately it is happening to everything novel and unique, squeezing every last penny out of such and in the process transforming it into the common and mundane.

But it is an inescapable, irresistible imperative of the current technology and economic circumstances, much like WWI static trench warfare was a result of military defense systems and tactics far more advanced than offensive ones.

And again, past 20 years is just the prelude, AI will turbocharge this as it is inherently backward looking.
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Re: Tudor Black Bay

Post by ocean » June 22nd 2024, 5:36am

smellody wrote:
June 21st 2024, 8:25am
Tudor must have more variations of one model, the BlackBay, than any other watch manufacturer in the years since the line was introduced. Although I'm a Tudor fan, more is just more.


I’m on the fence on Tudor I think they are beautiful watches but my problem has and always will be it’s just a Tudor. I don’t think they are anything special and if you want a Rolex save and buy a Rolex. That’s like buying a Volkswagen and trying to say it’s as good as a Bentley.
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Re: Tudor Black Bay

Post by bbattle » June 22nd 2024, 10:26am

smellody wrote:
June 21st 2024, 12:38pm
I still like them. It's just soooo many. I wouldn't mind a fill list of references = Black Bay
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https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/watches?t ... -black-bay

144 variations shown on that link.
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Re: Tudor Black Bay

Post by smellody » June 22nd 2024, 10:47am

bbattle wrote:
June 22nd 2024, 10:26am
smellody wrote:
June 21st 2024, 12:38pm
I still like them. It's just soooo many. I wouldn't mind a fill list of references = Black Bay
Screen Shot 2024-06-22 at 12.22.11 PM.png

https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/watches?t ... -black-bay

144 variations shown on that link.
That's a fine start. Now submodels/colors/movement/etc.

And those are current I think 🤔

And there is a gold one and a coin silver one.
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Re: Tudor Black Bay

Post by bbattle » June 22nd 2024, 12:08pm

here are some variations for the Black Bay GMT:
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For the regular BB 31mm, 36,, 39mm, and 41mm, I counted 60 variations, some with plenty of gold and diamonds.

Ooh, since Tudor sponsors a cycling team, they have a new Pelagos chronometer.

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titanium case
Calibre MT5813 (COSC)
43mm black carbon composite case with matte finish
Lugs: 22mm lug width
Case thickness: 13.6mm
https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/watches/p ... 827kn-0001
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Re: Tudor Black Bay

Post by conjurer » June 23rd 2024, 10:27pm

smellody wrote:
June 23rd 2024, 6:56pm
Mark1 wrote:
June 23rd 2024, 6:01pm
Naysaying pudwhackers aside, I still see a 79030N in my future.
Nice. I love them all. I'm just amazed at how many types that they've made.
And, what's wrong with plenty of choice? Take porn, for instance. Modern porn, as Lord JAS said, is so much better than vintage (i.e. Aunt Peg) porn. The broads are a lot better looking, and anal is pretty much a career requirement. Nobody in the early 1980s ever said, "boy, I really wish there was a lot less anal in porn these days." Hell, no. When Bridget Monet got punched in the seat by her boyfriend in Stiff Competition I was, like, oh, yeah, let me pause the VCR and get a Kleenex. What were we talking about, again??
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