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Re: The Matryoshka doll of Doxa and friends

Post by bedlam » October 18th 2017, 9:52pm

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bedlam wrote:Been away and just returned to find my trekDS account at WUS has been banned permanently. Goddammit.

I said that would happen if this stuff was posted publically.

:-(

It is not public here and poor redbar was banned at wus for posting it.

The mods knew where the info came from and likely assumed I was posting it under a fake account so, predictably, they banned both the fake account and mine. Which is what I said would happen if the info was posted outside of this forum.

I'll start building a sales rep up over there yet again.

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Re: The Matryoshka doll of Doxa and friends

Post by koimaster » October 18th 2017, 10:17pm

bedlam wrote:
koimaster wrote:
bedlam wrote:Been away and just returned to find my trekDS account at WUS has been banned permanently. Goddammit.

I said that would happen if this stuff was posted publically.

:-(

It is not public here and poor redbar was banned at wus for posting it.

The mods knew where the info came from and likely assumed I was posting it under a fake account so, predictably, they banned both the fake account and mine. Which is what I said would happen if the info was posted outside of this forum.

I'll start building a sales rep up over there yet again.

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Post by bedlam » October 19th 2017, 2:15am

koimaster wrote:
bedlam wrote:
koimaster wrote:
bedlam wrote:Been away and just returned to find my trekDS account at WUS has been banned permanently. Goddammit.

I said that would happen if this stuff was posted publically.

:-(

It is not public here and poor redbar was banned at wus for posting it.

The mods knew where the info came from and likely assumed I was posting it under a fake account so, predictably, they banned both the fake account and mine. Which is what I said would happen if the info was posted outside of this forum.

I'll start building a sales rep up over there yet again.

My bad.

I only have about 4 more left ;-)
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Post by bedlam » October 19th 2017, 2:17am

conjurer wrote:And yet, another leak from the Members Only forum.

Nah, Brad Holmes had seen all the email correspondence and would have picked it up instantly as a fake account being used to post the material and probably just assumed it was me behind it.
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Post by bedlam » October 20th 2017, 12:03am

AJC wrote:Soooooo... Is trekDS a banned word there now too?

No, just the account. It takes Ernie to take it that step further into full paranoia.
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Post by bedlam » October 20th 2017, 12:27am

The annoying thing was I played it very cool and all the parties were seeing me as a good guy (maybe less so Brad) as I was looking to try and milk the Doxa guy for more info.
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Post by bedlam » October 27th 2017, 8:01pm

Brad has been checking IP's and now banned my other WUS account and called me a troll. WTF.

I emailed him and said he has got the wrong guy - I was at sea and had no internet or phone access for that week. There is no way I posted Koi's stuff.

So far he is blanking me. Which makes me wonder if he is actually just pissed that I talked to Verticalscope about the privacy issue once he failed to act. That would be something VS should address as it is a much bigger issue than the usual day-to-day forum politics.

Just sent them an email.
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Post by 3Flushes » October 29th 2017, 11:03am

Missed this during my transition-

A revealing piece of fact-finding in the finest tradition of the Lords. Well done indeed.

I have never been too active there as I don't do much flipping, and have found the board-banter to be
overall vapid and irrelevant.
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Post by codguy » October 30th 2017, 4:54am

MKTheVintageBloke wrote:AFAIK, political parties all around the world do hire these. Especially the haters.
In Europe, it's mostly right-wing ones - often with rancid (thinly veiled or open racism included) content, propaganda worthy of Goebbels... I wouldn't be surprised, if it turned out that a lot of them are on some party's payroll

We have that over here, to the tune of $10 million from a single political party/election account alone....

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There are still alot of places we can triple stackem........ John Gacy style (not like we do any of the digging anyhow).

3Flushes wrote:I have never been too active there as I don't do much flipping, and have found the board-banter to be
overall vapid and irrelevant.

Yep, been a member there for many years and have a post count of probably a dozen.


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Post by koimaster » October 31st 2017, 4:38pm

bedlam wrote:Brad has been checking IP's and now banned my other WUS account and called me a troll. WTF.

I emailed him and said he has got the wrong guy - I was at sea and had no internet or phone access for that week. There is no way I posted Koi's stuff.

So far he is blanking me. Which makes me wonder if he is actually just pissed that I talked to Verticalscope about the privacy issue once he failed to act. That would be something VS should address as it is a much bigger issue than the usual day-to-day forum politics.

Just sent them an email.



I have contacted verticalscope and included photos of emails made to me by doxa mods regarding posts about orange dials which ended up getting me banned. They actually used my name in the emails I received and on WUS. I tend to be annoyed by forum bullies as is well known so included with my letter to verticalscope is what is below.

They have been informed that unless certain conditions are met, the domains which are similar to theirs will lead either to here or to a porn site. It is my hope they say fuck you so I can point them to transgender porn sites. As far as Doxa goes, We own numerous doxa related domains, all point here but perhaps in honor of rick and the rest of the doxa trolls, those domains should point to greasy anal sex with animals.





• watchtalkforums.net
• watchfreeks.org
• verticalscope.org
• verticalscope.us
• watchuseek.us
• watchuseek.store


• watchintyme.org picked this one up just in case they pissed me off.

• striderwatches.net http://www.onlydudes.com/
• doxawatches.org
• doxawatches.online
• doxausa.org
• doxausa.online
• doxausa.net
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Post by bedlam » October 31st 2017, 9:10pm

No response from VerticalScope, so I assume they are not going to intervene. I'm not very surprised as its a potentially thorny road to go down from their perspective.

Oh well, tried and prosecuted for something its not even possible that I could have done. Nice work WUS Mods!
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Post by bedlam » October 31st 2017, 9:13pm

Its an interesting history though. Banned for complaining about Isofrane admitting to breaching data privacy the first time, and now banned again following a complaint that Doxa might have done the same.

I'm sure there is a lesson here.
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Post by conjurer » October 31st 2017, 10:52pm

bedlam wrote:Its an interesting history though. Banned for complaining about Isofrane admitting to breaching data privacy the first time, and now banned again following a complaint that Doxa might have done the same.

I'm sure there is a lesson here.


A lesson indeed. Definition of the word "forum":

From Merriam-Webster:

a :the marketplace or public place of an ancient Roman city forming the center of judicial and public business
b :a public meeting place for open discussion The club provides a forum for people interested in local history.
c :a medium (such as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas


When money rules the roost, there is no open discussion; where there is finance going on, finance rules. If one needs to constantly watch one's words, in order not to give the slightest offence, particularly where profits are concerned, then it is not a "forum." It's a marketplace, not of ideas, but of commodities, and that's pretty much what WUS is, a marketplace for watches and places to shill watches (and overpriced rubber straps.)

The only places where free speech seems to exist on WUS is, from my narrow POV, the Orient subforum, mainly because nobody seems to bother with it except a few enthusiasts. Otherwise, it pays off to keep your mouth shut, lay low, and when you want to unload an SKX007 or an Oris Sixty-Five, well, go to it, homeboy.

You want to write your opinions freely, well, there's here, and that's maybe about it, apart from BDWF and a few others that I don't know about. To try to pretend that WUS is some sort of forum is silly. Anything that smacks of controversy will be quashed, by one of the jack-booted thugs that Verticalscope employs over there for pennies and swag.

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Post by bedlam » November 1st 2017, 4:57pm

conjurer wrote:It's all about the Benjamins, baby.

It is. And it highlights the problem of treating companies as citizens.

I notice Apple trying to set up 'Town Squares' for customers to congregate and treat as public spaces. Its a real-world extension of corporate run forums like WUS. I hope they fail to gain traction as bringing corporations into our social lives really isn't a good idea at all.
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Post by koimaster » November 20th 2017, 1:14pm

We can always put up webpages with the below domains stating how fucked up WUS is and Doxa and the Doxa fanbois and mods. Watchlords owns those domain names. We could also point them to raunchy animal sex. :shock:


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Post by koimaster » November 20th 2017, 1:47pm

bobbee wrote:I can't be legally seen within 100 meters of an antelope, but otherwise a good idea.


type in doxausa.com and you get doxa links. Type in any of the domains I listed above and you get currently get watchlords.
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Post by svaglic » November 20th 2017, 7:27pm

koimaster wrote:
bedlam wrote:Been away and just returned to find my trekDS account at WUS has been banned permanently. Goddammit.

I said that would happen if this stuff was posted publically.

:-(


It is not public here and poor redbar was banned at wus for posting it.


All Brad had to do was go into his messages and see who it was that complained about getting emails from Doxa. That was kind of easy for him to see that it was Carl and realize that Carl either put the info out to others or he started a second account. They may believe him to be redbar. Either way Carl is screwed with his IP address and will have some finagling to do to get another account.
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Post by TemerityB » November 20th 2017, 7:59pm

Man. All this because a couple of guys who know watches wanted to tell the absolute truth.

I've always said that's the very reason I've always wanted more members here - serious hobbyists to know stuff that's dug up like this. It's the good work we do, and only fan bois and/or commercial flotsam could not want to read it.
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Post by biglove » November 20th 2017, 9:25pm

svaglic wrote:
koimaster wrote:
bedlam wrote:Been away and just returned to find my trekDS account at WUS has been banned permanently. Goddammit.

I said that would happen if this stuff was posted publically.

:-(


It is not public here and poor redbar was banned at wus for posting it.


All Brad had to do was go into his messages and see who it was that complained about getting emails from Doxa. That was kind of easy for him to see that it was Carl and realize that Carl either put the info out to others or he started a second account. They may believe him to be redbar. Either way Carl is screwed with his IP address and will have some finagling to do to get another account.



Nah, there are easy workarounds with software that spoofs IP addresses. If Carl wants in, he can get in.

I used them years ago when a group of us went rogue at beeradvocate.com after the wife of the owner started personal attacks and permabans based on reviews she didn’t like and criticism of the site selling out to corporate beer America.

Those were good times.
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Post by bedlam » November 21st 2017, 2:07am

biglove wrote:
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koimaster wrote:
bedlam wrote:Been away and just returned to find my trekDS account at WUS has been banned permanently. Goddammit.

I said that would happen if this stuff was posted publically.

:-(


It is not public here and poor redbar was banned at wus for posting it.


All Brad had to do was go into his messages and see who it was that complained about getting emails from Doxa. That was kind of easy for him to see that it was Carl and realize that Carl either put the info out to others or he started a second account. They may believe him to be redbar. Either way Carl is screwed with his IP address and will have some finagling to do to get another account.

Nah, there are easy workarounds with software that spoofs IP addresses. If Carl wants in, he can get in.

I was using a generic proxy and he still picked me using an account I registered 2 yrs ago.
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