Watchlords

Starting a thread dedicated to Orient Star Second Edition such as the green one that is presumably on its way to me from a dealer.

This is the first new watch I’ve purchased in years as well as there being little owner experience on the net as it is a new model released just several months ago

The inspiration for this is the Calendar Auto Orient released in 1964

The color scheme on the green variant is inspired by the Ryusendo limestone caverns of Iwate, Japan

I love when you post this kind of stuff. It’s interesting and I learn.

Cool photo per Hodinkee Japan

Comparison of original Calendar Auto Orient and Diver 1964, also per Hodinkee Japan

Wrists shots

svaglic wrote: ↑

November 25th 2022, 11:50am

I love when you post this kind of stuff. It’s interesting and I learn.

Thank

Some glam shots

Basic parameters

40.2 case with 41.0 bezel. The overhang is for better grip with gloves. The less than massive case was a big draw for me. But not so fast there, Sport, the case thickness is 14.5mm

49.6 lug to lug

20mm lugs

In house F6N47 movement. 21600 bph, 50 hour power reserve. Same movement as current OS200

Double domed crystal, AR coating on inside I believe

Alumite, whatever that is, bezel insert

-15/+25 seconds per day stated accuracy. Anecdotal reports of rather better accuracy than spec.

Awesome! I love that green dial.

Looking forward to your review. I've had quite a few Orients in my time.

bbattle wrote: ↑

November 25th 2022, 5:02pm

Awesome! I love that green dial.

I think Green Lantern would be a potential moniker. It definitely captures the soft focus of light filtering through water.

Superhero symmetry to Rolex Hulk is extra credit.

jason_recliner wrote: ↑

November 25th 2022, 5:49pm

Looking forward to your review. I've had quite a few Orients in my time.

Thanks, It’s shaping up to be a stemwinder, feels like .

Why, goddamn it, I haven't looked forward to a new member's watch so much in a long time!

Ok, so this is the OS Diver 1964 Second Edition.

What’s up with the First Edition?
Pretty coolio as well. Limited edition of 500. Not too hard to find on secondary market.

Based on the OS Olympia Calendar Auto from 1964.
I went for Second Edition because I generally don’t favor stainless bezels or baton hands but after seeing this dudes wrist shots, especially on rubber, again not one of my faves, I could make an exception for this one

It is listed as 40.2mm width vs 41mm for 2d edition. They both share the same case at 40.2mm but the first edition has a flush bezel whereas the 2d has a slightly protruding 41mm bezel

My thought is that on the first edition, the bracelet and head are perfect complements, on the second edition, it is a perfectly fine and attractive bracelet but not an awesome, imo, stylistic match for the head.


My thought is despite its origins, first looks modern whereas the second has a mildly retro vibe with the smaller indices perhaps combined with the hand style

So then combine that with the otherworldly underwater glow of the green dial and, I dunno, Captain Nemo could be wearing one

But not with that bracelet , No retro cues

So this could be the watch that a beads of rice really works on for me. I’ve tried them on a couple other watches but never integrated well enough for me, like it could have been OEM

But it could work here leaning into retro vibe or possibly a jubilee.

Considering the classic vibe of 2d Edition, mystic chords of memory reminded me that the Heuer amd Tag Heuer Professional followed the same motif on face hands etc

unsurprising, it is a common motif

For me it is a bit personal. As the Tag was my exclusive watch during my Navy years

Went through three of them, life on a naval vessel can be tough on a watch

Anyhow I’ve undoubtedly spent more time looking at a Tag 1k Pro than any other watch and by a long shot and may be part of the draw of this OS for me.

conjurer wrote: ↑

November 25th 2022, 11:47pm

Why, goddamn it, I haven't looked forward to a new member's watch so much in a long time!

Sorry but you’re going to have to wait longer

First time purchase from Jomashop and it wasn’t good

They cancelled my order, found this out when I emailed them to ask for a shipping date follow up on my order conformation

They told me my order has been cancelled bla blah verification team doesn’t give reasons but lotsa credit card fraud blah blah

Said try with PayPal or something. I looked at item and it wax sold out

I wrote the them back that I don’t accept their explanation my credit has never has been an issue and that my explanation is they oversold the unit as it was a very good price

So the only remedy for me is the same unit at sale price

Well that’s that, back to the drawing board

Alain had problems with Joma last year and on WUS others have been having issues with them too.

There was another store that had it for sale for $10.00 more, but it isn’t showing now. Their sale must be over.
Joma sucks for this, not only did they back out of the deal, they messed you up from getting it at the other store that had it for sale.

svaglic wrote: ↑

November 29th 2022, 2:10pm

Alain had problems with Joma last year and on WUS others have been having issues with them too.

Before ordering I read his threads on Joma so I figured it’s a bit of a clip shop but not necessarily always.

But I was in it for the great price, it’s always you get what you pay for and dealing out some awshits and managing the disgruntlement is part of the biz plan of a joint like this

But they have to give mostly good deals to keep going. It’s just the likelihood is higher at this sort of retailer

No illusions about that, took a chance, snake eyes or whatever but no real loss

Anyhow I’m thinking thinking I might end up liking the first edition one an awful lot

So like whatever my big fat Jomashop experience

Sorry to hear this, Mr. Robot. I myself have had several no-problem deals with Joma (and sent a watch back for repair under their warranty, which they handled faster than Omega USA did on my old Great White.)

Having said that, Joma's kinda down-market, and if I can get something elsewhere, even for a little higher price, I'll usually do it.

conjurer wrote: ↑

November 29th 2022, 3:44pm

Sorry to hear this, Mr. Robot. I myself have had several no-problem deals with Joma (and sent a watch back for repair under their warranty, which they handled faster than Omega USA did on my old Great White.)

Having said that, Joma's kinda down-market, and if I can get something elsewhere, even for a little higher price, I'll usually do it.

This is a s basically my calculus.

svaglic wrote: ↑

November 29th 2022, 2:10pm

Alain had problems with Joma last year and on WUS others have been having issues with them too.

Joma is a buy out operation and they have a finite stock they sell on a first come first served basis; why not just tell customers what the deal is? It would seem that in the computer age that they would know they're sold out, and could post sell outs sooner. Hell, it could be done on autopilot. Overselling and the subsequent cancellation hand job costs business in the long run. I never had a problem but crossed them off'a my list when they screwed Alain.