My own watch project

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Re: My own watch project

Post by Echo watches » September 27th 2024, 12:12pm

codguy wrote:
September 27th 2024, 8:22am
Echo watches wrote:
September 27th 2024, 6:46am
used old radium luminous from superluminova
Yes its just a colour, nothing dangerous
https://www.rctritec.com/en/news/old-ra ... and-origin

I'll be damned, didn't know Superluminova produces a radium substance for watches, thought the stuff was banned in the 60's. Learning new crap everyday.

I own a watch with a vintage looking luminous material applied but it is no-way a radium isotope
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Post by bbattle » September 27th 2024, 2:36pm

It doesn't have any radium in it; they just call it "old radium" to denote the color. And probably to evoke some nostalgia for the "good ol' days" when watches were watches and young women died because of it.

My 9th grade science teacher had a radium dial watch and he would bring it in to make the geiger counter go crazy. I don't remember anything fancy about the lume. Funny, Coleman lantern mantles also make the geiger counter go crazy.

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wikipedia info on SuperLuminova: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-LumiNova

A more in-depth and colorful description: Color coded coolness:

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There are a variety of lume pigments available. As you can see in the lumeshot comparison above, microbrand Marc & Sons went with a bluish lume for their pilot watch and a green lume for their diver. Most watches with Super-LumiNova will use one or more of the following color codes:

C1 – White with about 31% brightness of C3
C3 – Yellow with the brightest glow
C5 – Greenish-yellow with 89% brightness
C7 – Green with 84% brightness
C9 – Bluish-green with about 83% brightness
BGW9 – Light bluish-white with about 95% glow of C3
Old Radium – Appears to be aged/vintage tritium lume in the daytime, but glows a bright yellowish-green at night
Old White – Off-white color in the day, glows yellowish-green at night
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https://www.3watches.com/all-about-super-luminova/

Vaer uses old radium SuperLuminova on some of their watches and provides a picture for us as well as a nice description:

"Old Radium Paint: While the name is confusing - Old Radium paint is NOT radioactive, and in fact contains no actual radium. It’s simply a tan tinted version of C3 SuperLuminova, that’s mixed with yellow/gold paint to achieve a vintage aesthetic. The reason that it’s called Old Radium is that many vintage time pieces that used radium paint in the 1950s, 1960s and 70s tend to have a consistent patina in which the original white lume paint yellows or “tans” over time. Modern watches the like the Vaer Tradition and Korean Field use Old Radium lume to honor this popular retro aesthetic. While Old Radium is a strong lume paint, it is not as strong as C3 or BGW9 lume, as it is diluted with coloring."
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Super-LumiNova comes in three grades: Standard, Grade A, and Grade X1.

Standard Grade is the least expensive and has the shortest afterglow time.
Grade A has a longer afterglow time than Standard Grade.
Grade X1 is the most expensive and has the longest afterglow time.

Lume grade is not the end-all-be-all marker for performance. For example, a lower grade lume with more layering can outperform a higher grade lume with less layering. Also, a lower grade lume of a better compound can outperform a higher grade lume of a lesser compound (eg. C3 of any grade will outperform even X1 Grade C1).

https://www.vaerwatches.com/blogs/journ ... in-watches
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Re: My own watch project

Post by bbattle » September 27th 2024, 2:44pm

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I like the bronze bezel.

I think the black dial bronze case, bronze bezel would be nice.

Have you considered other watch designs? I know you said you make what you like but that doesn't always pay the bills. Even Porsche caved and created SUV's in order to stay afloat. :)**
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Re: My own watch project

Post by jason_recliner » September 28th 2024, 2:45pm

Echo watches wrote:
September 27th 2024, 6:48am
jason_recliner wrote:
September 26th 2024, 4:08pm
Are you making these at home? Or do you have a workshop?
I don't make them myself, factory does, watchmaker assembly them together.
Aah, ok, I get it now. So it's not really YOUR watch project, but rather watches you've bought from China. Maybe set aside an afternoon and think about why you're doing this, what this venture will achieve, does the world need more watch 'brands' and expensive mechanical watches, and is this really a positive contribution to the world and a productive way to spend your limited time on this planet.
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Re: My own watch project

Post by WISenheimer » September 28th 2024, 6:43pm

jason_recliner wrote:
September 28th 2024, 2:45pm
Echo watches wrote:
September 27th 2024, 6:48am
jason_recliner wrote:
September 26th 2024, 4:08pm
Are you making these at home? Or do you have a workshop?
I don't make them myself, factory does, watchmaker assembly them together.
Aah, ok, I get it now. So it's not really YOUR watch project, but rather watches you've bought from China. Maybe set aside an afternoon and think about why you're doing this, what this venture will achieve, does the world need more watch 'brands' and expensive mechanical watches, and is this really a positive contribution to the world and a productive way to spend your limited time on this planet.
That was my private message to Pierre of Alato when I cancelled my KS, dude reached out to me asking why.

No response

What do these guys expect to do that is so special and rarified and better?

I think the tell is in the thread title. My own watch. Me me me. Strictly an ego self gratification deal
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Re: My own watch project

Post by codguy » September 29th 2024, 1:33am

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jason_recliner wrote:
September 28th 2024, 2:45pm
WISenheimer wrote:
September 28th 2024, 6:43pm
Ok, whatever

No difference than any other starterkick campaign has done (hello Alato, Tuseno, etc.)
Hell, isn't your guys Uncle Seiko and/or Long Island Watch dude doing the same fucking thing? Just asking.

Hey OP, do whatever you want to do watch wise --- be it producing watches or shopping for them while on vacation.
I applaud your desire to have watches produced for sale. Though I've seen worse, your design/look isn't my cup of tea. The 77XX movement isn't special but has ever been an issue for me---- nor is the watch thickness (just received a new 7753/Valgranges derivative Omega that is 15mm tall) so there is that.
Enjoy what you are doing, good luck and all that shit-----------

NOW I need to figure out how to get my man card back.
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Re: My own watch project

Post by ALATO » September 30th 2024, 1:45pm

WISenheimer wrote:
September 28th 2024, 6:43pm
jason_recliner wrote:
September 28th 2024, 2:45pm
Echo watches wrote:
September 27th 2024, 6:48am


I don't make them myself, factory does, watchmaker assembly them together.
Aah, ok, I get it now. So it's not really YOUR watch project, but rather watches you've bought from China. Maybe set aside an afternoon and think about why you're doing this, what this venture will achieve, does the world need more watch 'brands' and expensive mechanical watches, and is this really a positive contribution to the world and a productive way to spend your limited time on this planet.
That was my private message to Pierre of Alato when I cancelled my KS, dude reached out to me asking why.

No response

What do these guys expect to do that is so special and rarified and better?

I think the tell is in the thread title. My own watch. Me me me. Strictly an ego self gratification deal
For me its not about making money. Actually this endevour cost me more than I get back on selling the pieces. You know why I do it? I do it for the satisfaction of seeing a design of a watch come to life. It is a fantastic feeling. I do it because of all the unexpected meetings with new interesting people this endevour bring into my life. I do it because I love the journey. Does it save someones life? Does it make your everyday better? No.. is it innovative and groundbreaking? No.. it is a jewelry, meant to wear and admire - as a fantastic creation. Actually, I recommend you to go design one of your own, have it produced. You will see what I mean :)
Have a great day!
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Re: My own watch project

Post by ALATO » September 30th 2024, 1:53pm

bbattle wrote:
September 25th 2024, 6:07pm
There are loads of Kickstarter watches that have gotten funded but go no further. Manufacturing costs somehow grow and eat up the money. The solution? Why, announce another Kickstarter project to get enough funds to ship watches from the first project.

I'm watching this in real time right now; a certain KSer is still fiddling with the design parameters. This has been going on for a while now; will I recognize the watch once it is finally delivered? Who knows.

One thing I know; I won't be bothering with Kickstarters again.
Let me know if you are addressing ALATO when you say "a certain KSer". I would gladly comment any question if thats the case. /Pierre
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Re: My own watch project

Post by WISenheimer » October 1st 2024, 12:34am

ALATO wrote:
September 30th 2024, 1:45pm
WISenheimer wrote:
September 28th 2024, 6:43pm
jason_recliner wrote:
September 28th 2024, 2:45pm


Aah, ok, I get it now. So it's not really YOUR watch project, but rather watches you've bought from China. Maybe set aside an afternoon and think about why you're doing this, what this venture will achieve, does the world need more watch 'brands' and expensive mechanical watches, and is this really a positive contribution to the world and a productive way to spend your limited time on this planet.
That was my private message to Pierre of Alato when I cancelled my KS, dude reached out to me asking why.

No response

What do these guys expect to do that is so special and rarified and better?

I think the tell is in the thread title. My own watch. Me me me. Strictly an ego self gratification deal
For me its not about making money. Actually this endevour cost me more than I get back on selling the pieces. You know why I do it? I do it for the satisfaction of seeing a design of a watch come to life. It is a fantastic feeling. I do it because of all the unexpected meetings with new interesting people this endevour bring into my life. I do it because I love the journey. Does it save someones life? Does it make your everyday better? No.. is it innovative and groundbreaking? No.. it is a jewelry, meant to wear and admire - as a fantastic creation. Actually, I recommend you to go design one of your own, have it produced. You will see what I mean :)
Have a great day!
Well Pierre, your persistence, passion, and product are obviously all commendable or even remarkable.

When the muse is calling, it is hard to resist.

One measure of a life well spent is how few regrets one has at the end of it. No one knows how ALATO is going to play out for you but it is clear that if you don’t follow this impulse you will definitely always regret that.

So best of luck.
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