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Alas, Bordeaux...

Post by Falstaff » May 22nd 2020, 8:12am

https://www.yahoo.com/news/taste-bordea ... 21305.html

Consider that 85% of the vines on the right bank of the Dordogne are merlot including the prized appellations of Pomerol and St. Emilion. Chateau Petrus in Pomerol - regarded by many as one of the rarest (2009 vintage runs around $3500 btl.) and the finest Bordeaux wines in the world - is in many years almost 100% merlot. Thank God I'll be dead before then.
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Post by MKTheVintageBloke » May 22nd 2020, 11:36am

A good St. Emilion ain’t bad. I reckon I’m not that picky when it comes to wines - if I’m, say, in Hungary, and I see locally produced Cabernet, then chances are it’s gonna be OK. Speaking of Hungarian cabernets, they’re perfectly alright. Concerning French wines, I’ve yet to see a bad Cotes du Rhone dry red.
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Post by gerdson » May 23rd 2020, 12:08pm

The fucking frogeaters make great wines, which they keep all for themselves. Then they piss in the empty casks and sell that abroad to us innocent foreigners. Or so it seems. It is difficult to find a decent French wine here.
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Post by MKTheVintageBloke » May 23rd 2020, 1:24pm

gerdson wrote:
May 23rd 2020, 12:08pm
The fucking frogeaters make great wines, which they keep all for themselves. Then they piss in the empty casks and sell that abroad to us innocent foreigners. Or so it seems. It is difficult to find a decent French wine here.
There's always the good stuff of the Rhineland. Austria has some decent wines to offer as well, from the Czech border down to Tyrol. Wines don't end on France. The lack of availability of good French stuff would have me unconcerned.
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Post by gerdson » May 23rd 2020, 1:52pm

I do agree. We do barely buy French wines. Spanish, Italian, South Africa. Pinot Noir from Oregon, if I can find any. Colleague of mine brought some very good Bulgarian wine (his home country). But mostly Spanish. Good value.
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Post by bbattle » May 27th 2020, 5:51pm

A lot of the French wine here in the States is okay but overpriced. They must be sending the quality stuff to the high dollar markets. I'd have to go to Nashville or Atlanta to find out. The Germans do send over some good wines but a dry Riesling here where I live is sometimes tough to find. Italian wines are hit and miss, same for the Spanish wines. South America is better for Malbec.

No Eastern Europe wines here but I'll keep looking. I can't order online wines here in Alabama unless I can get them shipped to a wine dealer who collects the taxes(and his fee).

Alabama is too fertile and too humid for most wines. I once ran across a red hybrid that wasn't half bad but have never been able to find it again. Everything else is way too sweet, almost like Eiswein.
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Post by Falstaff » May 27th 2020, 7:51pm

bbattle wrote:
May 27th 2020, 5:51pm
A lot of the French wine here in the States is okay but overpriced. They must be sending the quality stuff to the high dollar markets. I'd have to go to Nashville or Atlanta to find out. The Germans do send over some good wines but a dry Riesling here where I live is sometimes tough to find. Italian wines are hit and miss, same for the Spanish wines. South America is better for Malbec.

No Eastern Europe wines here but I'll keep looking. I can't order online wines here in Alabama unless I can get them shipped to a wine dealer who collects the taxes(and his fee).

Alabama is too fertile and too humid for most wines. I once ran across a red hybrid that wasn't half bad but have never been able to find it again. Everything else is way too sweet, almost like Eiswein.
I'm mainly a Bordeaux guy - which is not to say that's all I have an interest in. Here in the Northeast, I have ready access to almost everything on the market - high or low end. If I can't find it here, I'll source it from wherever it can be had in North America. Shipping costs make dealing with European vendors almost impossible although I do subscribe to their mailing lists as well as the mailings of certain of my favorite Chateaux. I also bid at auctions and do some futures purchases as well. I'm usually looking for a specific vintage of a specific wine, so I don't do much general browsing except for paging through the auction catalogs. Wines are just as much a hobby of mine as watches - so apply all that sharp focus single-minded wine buying verbiage above to watches and it all falls into place.
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