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Does anyone have any first hand knowledge on it? Like the feel and looking for something to carry on the way to and from office.

Is the replacement for the Sig-Sauer P290RS which is what my wife carries. Well, she carries that and a Glock 23.

She prefers my FN 40 but it is too big for her small frame. Same for the Glock so it stays in her car.

The previous Sig model is a dream to carry. Haven’t held the new version. The previous version could do with a lighter trigger pull, IMHO though. 9# is a bit unwieldy. Supposedly the replacement trigger breaks at ~6#.

Sorry ocean, no help here. I only carry/shoot metal pistols with exposed hammers.
Good luck on your research.

Sorry, Beretta and S&W man here. Ill go with the exposed hammers also.

I’d try using one at the range. I prefer the GP Ruger 357
Good hunting

I'm another that's of no help. It's new enough I haven't tried one out but I've never really warmed up to DAO sub-compacts.

Try one out and let us know.

biglove wrote: ↑

January 2nd 2020, 7:24pm

She prefers my FN 40 but it is too big for her small frame. Same for the Glock so it stays in her car.

Wasn’t the FN 40 a grenade launcher? I’m roughly familiar with what the FN Forty-Nine looks like (a bit similar to the S&W M&P), but Aunt Google was of no help with the 40. Except the grenade launcher, that is.

MKTheVintageBloke wrote: ↑

January 3rd 2020, 6:27pm

biglove wrote: ↑

January 2nd 2020, 7:24pm

She prefers my FN 40 but it is too big for her small frame. Same for the Glock so it stays in her car.

Wasn’t the FN 40 a grenade launcher? I’m roughly familiar with what the FN Forty-Nine looks like (a bit similar to the S&W M&P), but Aunt Google was of no help with the 40. Except the grenade launcher, that is.

We have two FNS versions. One for my car, one in the house. Each chose 40s for our autos as, God forbid it ever be necessary, the round is hot enough to still stop a bad guy after going though a car door or windshield. That’s not a guarantee with 9mm.


https://fnamerica.com/products/pistols/fns-40/

biglove wrote: ↑

January 3rd 2020, 8:17pm

Each chose 40s for our autos as, , the round is hot enough to still stop a bad guy after going though a car door or windshield. That’s not a guarantee with 9mm.

Love to see your source on this ^.

The FBI is heading back to 9mm from the .40 S&W (9mm ---> 10mm ---> .40 ---> 9mm).
The 9mm Luger (9x19) has less recoil, more round capacity & the same penetration capacity as the .40
Modern 9mm projectiles is the reason.....per the FBI and their testing.

That said, I'm a .45acp guy though maintain a good share of 9mm pistolas at our residences.

Sorry for the cecil Lord Ocean and continued luck in your research.

codguy wrote: ↑

January 4th 2020, 7:55am

biglove wrote: ↑

January 3rd 2020, 8:17pm

Each chose 40s for our autos as, , the round is hot enough to still stop a bad guy after going though a car door or windshield. That’s not a guarantee with 9mm.

Love to see your source on this ^.

The FBI is heading back to 9mm from the .40 S&W (9mm ---> 10mm ---> .40 ---> 9mm).
The 9mm Luger (9x19) has less recoil, more round capacity & the same penetration capacity as the .40
Modern 9mm projectiles is the reason.....per the FBI and their testing.

That said, I'm a .45acp guy though maintain a good share of 9mm pistolas at our residences.

Sorry for the cecil Lord Ocean and continued luck in your research.

My apologies for a blatant Cecil as follows:

There's a probably apocryphal tale involving the Tokarev 7.62 X 25 pistol round. The Czechs, chafing under their grudging acceptance of Soviet rule, produced a supposed compatible version of the round that was considerably over the standard chamber pressure. It worked a treat in the roller breach locked CZ-52 but was known to turn the Russian Tok into a grenade. The Czechs reportedly giggled enough to wet their pants as the ammo shipped to mother Russia proved to provide unexpected excitement. When I ran some Czech surplus 7.62x25 through my CZ-52s I did not see a reason to doubt the tale as it lit up an indoor range like a flamethrower.

Modern wonder bullets are one thing but the proliferation of "+++" experiments a couple decades back always reminded me of that Czech tale - or of someone dropping a hot handloaded 45-70 into a trapdoor Springfield. I'm not sure I trust the FBI to make sense consistently with their choices. They get all appalled with the .38 special then get distracted by 10mm then shrink it to .40 before coming full circle all while HRT still uses .45 ACP and air marshals toted .357 SIG. Their flirtation was a reminder of the old IDPA maxim: "you can't miss fast enough to win". Sometimes I wonder if law enforcement generally doesn't prioritize hitting what one is aiming at over laboratory ballistic slide rule debates.

But yeah. If one is shooting through a car door we're dealing with myths and legends.

It’s difficult to improve upon an old-school mod 1 Beretta .357 revolver... bulky, but with a little trigger work, it provides the most linear and predictable engagement, light recoil, and Uber reliable. Not the most compact daily carry, though.

I’ll never touch another Glock, which is fine, since at some point my damn thumb will rise up and get skinned...

codguy wrote: ↑

January 4th 2020, 7:55am

biglove wrote: ↑

January 3rd 2020, 8:17pm

Each chose 40s for our autos as, , the round is hot enough to still stop a bad guy after going though a car door or windshield. That’s not a guarantee with 9mm.

Love to see your source on this ^.

No studies on 9mm vs 40mm have I ever seen with the rounds compared for penetration after shooting through metal or glass.

Basing it on ballistics and accounts from police officer friends. Also, I have taken care of dozens of gang members/thugs shot with 9mm, some up to 15 times, who survived. Not so with 40 cal. Those have never survived to reach the ICU. Same for those shot with 45.

Bullets are crazy things though, have seen a teenager shot with 30-06 at 15 yards who survived and a 6’6” 350# guy who didn’t survive being shot point blank in the back with a .25.

Nuvolari wrote: ↑

January 4th 2020, 11:29am

It’s difficult to improve upon an old-school mod 1 Beretta .357 revolver... bulky, but with a little trigger work, it provides the most linear and predictable engagement, light recoil, and Uber reliable. Not the most compact daily carry, though.

I’ll never touch another Glock, which is fine, since at some point my damn thumb will rise up and get skinned...

Dang. I've never even seen one in the wild.