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Given these yesterday

Post by bobbee » June 23rd 2018, 9:54pm

My friend, who has been low on funds for a year or so asked for a loan, so I gave him a few sovs. He offered it back a few weeks ago, but I refused it and he gave me these yesterday as a 'thank you'.
They are full sized hand made replicas, with quite a bit of age as my mate says his dad had had them for years, and he died in 1967.
At nearly 12 and 13 inches with many working parts (triggers are the only non-working parts), plenty of patina and browned barrels instead of blued, these pistols look and feel like the real thing.
Hope you like.




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Post by conjurer » June 23rd 2018, 10:45pm

Nice! While I generally use a good old 1911 Colt auto (once a suck-ass liberal journalist asked a Texas Ranger why they only used Colt .45 automatics; the Ranger said, "because Colt doesn't make a .46 automatic") to dispatch Geeks in the Pine Barrens, I could see why something like these could have come in handy in the Earlies, when all the then-Geeks were buying Smiths Sub-Aqua-Homas Mark 3's on Val-U-Pays, where if you missed a payment you'd end up in the fucking stocks and the workhouse, by golly.
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Post by Hawk » June 24th 2018, 7:52am

Trivia of the day for non-firearm enthusiasts:

The flintlock pistols and similar earlier artifacts were the genesis of the phrase "lock, stock and barrel". At the time the fire control mechanism (lock), barrel and stock were often purchased separately from specialty craftsmen then assembled, sometimes by a fourth party, to complete the product. So it became a phrase meaning "complete", "all", "ready for use", etc. I don't know if the phrase is in common use in other English speaking countries though it is believed to have originated in England.

In the above examples there's a small recess to accept fine grain black powder and a hole into the barrel to ignite the main charge. The flint in the hammer would produce sparks when striking the frizzen which hinged to expose the small charge in the "pan" which sometimes failed to ignite the primary charge giving us a "flash in the pan" - a lot of smoke and fire with no tangible result.

Apologies if everyone already knew this.
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Re: Given these yesterday

Post by Thunder1 » June 24th 2018, 10:00am

Very cool!!...there was an estate sale here in Austin a couple of weeks ago where 2 matching dueling flint-lock pistols were on sale...I think they ended up going for about $11,000.00...I'll have to post a pic of my grandfathers' pistol after I rescue to from our safe..
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Post by Falstaff » June 24th 2018, 10:02am

bobbee wrote:It's interesting trivia that keeps forums and threads going Hawk.
As an aside, I intend finding some pieces of flint to fit in the hammers for that little extra realism.


ebay - flintlock pistol flints.
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Post by bobbee » June 24th 2018, 11:04am

Can't buy them in the UK, but I can make them easily enough.
BTW, anyone having trouble with eBay? I keep getting a "too many redirects" message when trying to search for anything. I have to Google what I want and click on any eBay results. Waiting for a reply to complaint to eBay.
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Post by Hawk » June 24th 2018, 12:40pm

bobbee wrote:Can't buy them in the UK, but I can make them easily enough.
BTW, anyone having trouble with eBay? I keep getting a "too many redirects" message when trying to search for anything. I have to Google what I want and click on any eBay results. Waiting for a reply to complaint to eBay.


Strangely enough the better quality flints over here are made from English Black Flint - it's considered premium stuff along with French Honey.

As you note you've already got the best stuff there so might as well make your own.

Copied from Tom Fuller's site:
Unsure how fit to find the proper size flint? First find the largest size that will fit. Pull the cock to the half cock position. Measure from the front of the top jaw screw, to the face of the frizzen. A flint longer than this distance will hold the frizzen open at the half-cock, expsoing the priming powder.

The flint should be as wide as possible without overhang. If the flint overhangs the inside edge of the frizzen, it may be possible for the flint to gouge the barrel as the cock swings through its' arc.

We have installed this flint "flat side up" to strike the frizzen high, giving a longer stroke, and more sparks. The flint is well within 1/8" of touching the frizzen on this lock by L&R. This small gap between flint and frizzen is correct.

If the flint is too short, the top jaw or screw may hit the frizzen. Or the frizzen may fail to may fail to "snap over" at the end of the stroke.

A leather pad is essential to properly grip the flint. Select a scrap of thin soft leather, suede, glove leather, etc. First cut or punch a small hole in the center, a bit larger than the diameter of the top jaw screw. Second inset the leather to these edges. Trim the leather to these edges. Overhanging edges may char. Third fold the leather, insert the flint, and tighten the jaw screw with a well fitted screw driver blade.
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