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Amazon Faces Suit Over Search Results

Post by TemerityB » July 11th 2015, 8:42pm

I read stuff like this and it just boggles my mind.

If Amazon doesn’t sell a specific product I’m looking for, should it simply tell me “Sorry, nothing here” or should it bring up a slate of other, possibly similar, competing products? To one high-end watchmaker that’s been involved in a four-year legal battle with Amazon, these questionable search results aren’t just an annoyance but constitute trademark infringement. And yesterday, a federal appeals panel said Amazon must face this trademark complaint in court.
In a 2-1 opinion [PDF], the San Francisco-based 9th Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a lower court ruling that Amazon would not have to go to trial over a trademark dispute with watchmaker Multi Time Machine Inc.
MTM first filed the lawsuit against Amazon back in 2011, claiming the retailer’s search results cause confusion for its potential buyers.
MTM sells its watches directly to consumers and not through other retailers, including Amazon.
However, MTM’s suit claims that when an individual searches for the military-style watch on Amazon the results turn up a list that includes several trademarked “MTM Special Ops” references in the search field and immediately below the search field, a list of similar products, and no indication that the online retailer doesn’t actually carry the products.


"High-end watchmaker"?

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Post by TemerityB » July 13th 2015, 4:14pm

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Post by tiktok » July 13th 2015, 4:58pm

I think these guys have a valid case, Amazon is the saddest molecule of modern retail life, hasn't made a profit in twenty years, artificially financed by Wall Street quackery, it's only goal is to put other smaller retailers out of business till there's no one else left. Bezos is a dick who never gave a penny to philanthropy until the press started writing him up.

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Post by Mortuus Fakeuus » July 13th 2015, 5:38pm

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foghorn wrote:Eye fore one wood luv a Mary Tyler More wARtch I here thay have kwartz Rhoda moovemints.


It's only Monday, but a sure "Line O' The Week!" candidate. Wow!



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Post by foghorn » July 13th 2015, 5:40pm

"It is one of the worst places to work in America. They put tracking devices on warehouse pickers and can them if they fail to run constantly for eight hours a day."

Similar expectations apply to most all workers picking orders in warehouses. It is contingent upon the workers to haul ass for at least an entire shift and meet (un)reasonable levels of production so that the CEO's can make the shareholders happy and vice versa. No worse than just about any other similar business.
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Post by foghorn » July 13th 2015, 5:42pm

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Post by WatchDorks.Net » July 14th 2015, 9:31am

Interesting. I'd have to read the specifics on this case, but the "fuzzy logic" being condemned would seem to apply to just about every Interwebz search out there. Just about all consumer-based searches (eBay, Google, Bing, etc.), when no results are found for the exact term searched, make suggestions based upon similarity. After all, their purpose is to show you something to buy.

If the plaintiff wins out in this suit, it could establish precedent that could markedly change online searches as we know them...
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Post by TemerityB » July 14th 2015, 12:59pm

WatchDorks.Net wrote:Interesting. I'd have to read the specifics on this case, but the "fuzzy logic" being condemned would seem to apply to just about every Interwebz search out there. Just about all consumer-based searches (eBay, Google, Bing, etc.), when no results are found for the exact term searched, make suggestions based upon similarity. After all, their purpose is to show you something to buy.

If the plaintiff wins out in this suit, it could establish precedent that could markedly change online searches as we know them...


..and, since law seems to be interpreted in ways that few can fathom these days, I bet it does win, too. It really doesn't matter if there is actual harm being done, or just a concept someone pulled straight out of their ass; the most lawyered mouse always gets the cheese.

Frankly, if I do a search for something at Amazon, and it comes up without the product, I say, "wow, they don't sell it," and shut down the browser. I'd wager most people do that same thing rather than accept a substitute for something they need.

As for the sermonizing over the "evils" of Amazon, well, that's falling on deaf ears here. The digital world is what's changing things, and I can vouch for that - the business I'm in is a shell of what it once was because of it. The way to deal with it is to adapt with the times rather than moan "poor me, it was better in the old days." That and $450 will buy you an Invicta San IV. As for that big, nasty, Amazon: The American public just named it the best company in the land. Tell you what: For the first time in my life, I don't have to go on a fucking safari to find a specialty part for one of my office machines - they have them there, I hit a button, and the next day, the new part is in the machine. If convenience, quality, and customer service are evil, then call me Beelzebub. And if working conditions suck there, the workplace will force them to change; I certainly feel for any underpaid working class Joe. But then again...find me the other factory or warehouse work that's different:

There have been dozens of stories portraying Amazon warehouses as inhumane, hellish workplaces, and while some workers may have been subject to these conditions, the ones I spoke to hadn’t. “It is certainly hard work,” said Brant Ivey, who spent six months in one of Amazon’s hubs lifting oversized objects. But “the conditions at the warehouse were on par or better than most other warehouses that I have been in.” One of the biggest complaints is that the warehouses are too hot. In 2012, after a lengthy expose revealed brutally hot summertime conditions, Amazon announced plans to spend $52 million to install air conditioning in its U.S. warehouses.

One Reddit user put it bluntly: “The work does suck, but all warehouse work sucks. I have experienced FAR worse conditions and been treated terrible by other Fortune 500 companies.”


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Post by bbattle » August 9th 2019, 5:08pm

I dropped my Amazon Prime membership because over time, there were fewer things that I wanted available for the Prime treatment. Plus, I never used their music or video services.

In the past, I'd order all sorts of stuff off Amazon because the prices seemed low but now, they aren't much better than the grocery store and there are plenty of other online sites that are cheaper.

Places like Jomashop, longislandwatch, shoppinginjapan.net are all cheaper than Amazon for the same watches. Perhaps the Amazon sellers are riding on the Amazon myth of lower prices to reel in their buyers.

I don't give a rat's rear about the supposed horrific working conditions at Amazon. Most likely, the snowflakes that take those jobs because their Womens Studies degree hadn't landed them their dream job have never had to do manual labor before and so at the first sign of fatigue, they feel they are going to die. Even worse, Amazon, like every other employer, frowns upon staring at one's cellphone all day, waiting for someone to like your picture of cats hanging from the curtains.
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Post by conjurer » August 9th 2019, 5:43pm

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I don't give a rat's rear about the supposed horrific working conditions at Amazon. Most likely, the snowflakes that take those jobs because their Womens Studies degree hadn't landed them their dream job have never had to do manual labor before and so at the first sign of fatigue, they feel they are going to die. Even worse, Amazon, like every other employer, frowns upon staring at one's cellphone all day, waiting for someone to like your picture of cats hanging from the curtains.
Hey, I work a lot of my workday back my store's warehouse. You calling me a fucking snowflake??
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Post by bbattle » August 9th 2019, 6:33pm

conjurer wrote:
August 9th 2019, 5:43pm
bbattle wrote:
August 9th 2019, 5:08pm
I don't give a rat's rear about the supposed horrific working conditions at Amazon. Most likely, the snowflakes that take those jobs because their Womens Studies degree hadn't landed them their dream job have never had to do manual labor before and so at the first sign of fatigue, they feel they are going to die. Even worse, Amazon, like every other employer, frowns upon staring at one's cellphone all day, waiting for someone to like your picture of cats hanging from the curtains.
Hey, I work a lot of my workday back my store's warehouse. You calling me a fucking snowflake??
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Post by conjurer » August 10th 2019, 7:49am

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All warehouse work sucks. Keep up with the pick rate or see ya. Complain that the pick rate isn't realistic buh-bye. Certainly not the best job in the world, but it's a job.
No doubt. Anyway, I was just breaking the new guy's balls a little bit. **(@
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conjurer wrote:
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All warehouse work sucks. Keep up with the pick rate or see ya. Complain that the pick rate isn't realistic buh-bye. Certainly not the best job in the world, but it's a job.
No doubt. Anyway, I was just breaking the new guy's balls a little bit. **(@
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