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In house movements...
"We should just sanction stupidity as our national pastime and be done with it."-TemerityB, Loser like me
hcharles wrote:Interesting article. It does have a Swiss bias over Seiko, Citizen and Orient.
conjurer wrote:An interesting article indeed, Loaf.
Also interesting is how the reviewers continued to bring up the Japanese as true manufactures, as opposed to the Swiss, who are increasingly sclerotic with their stuff.
The sun rises in the East.
jason_recliner wrote:It's the problem with the Swiss industry in general. Resting on their laurels for too long, too much smoke and mirrors, not enough adding actual value. So they talk crap to try and convince that Swiss is worth some kind of premium. In the meantime, the Japanese offerings just get better and better.
Kahuna74 wrote:jason_recliner wrote:It's the problem with the Swiss industry in general. Resting on their laurels for too long, too much smoke and mirrors, not enough adding actual value. So they talk crap to try and convince that Swiss is worth some kind of premium. In the meantime, the Japanese offerings just get better and better.
My thoughts exactly.
biglove wrote:Kahuna74 wrote:jason_recliner wrote:It's the problem with the Swiss industry in general. Resting on their laurels for too long, too much smoke and mirrors, not enough adding actual value. So they talk crap to try and convince that Swiss is worth some kind of premium. In the meantime, the Japanese offerings just get better and better.
My thoughts exactly.
Yep. Is just a matter of time before "Made in Japan" is the desirable watch vs "Swiss."
jason_recliner wrote:While I value genuine Japanese (and Swiss) production and manufacture highly, unfortunately Made In Japan means less than Swiss Made. e g the Sumo, produced in China in a Japanese managed factory or some such, is somehow worthy of carrying the MIJ label.
jason_recliner wrote:It's the problem with the Swiss industry in general. Resting on their laurels for too long, too much smoke and mirrors, not enough adding actual value. So they talk crap to try and convince that Swiss is worth some kind of premium. In the meantime, the Japanese offerings just get better and better.
hcharles wrote:jason_recliner wrote:It's the problem with the Swiss industry in general. Resting on their laurels for too long, too much smoke and mirrors, not enough adding actual value. So they talk crap to try and convince that Swiss is worth some kind of premium. In the meantime, the Japanese offerings just get better and better.
That's about it. The Swiss are anal retentive. The Japanese keep doing new "stuff". The Japanese are innovators, and knocking down old stereotypes.
TemerityB wrote:I think the lost point to some folks is that we are gonna need the Japanese companies. While Swatch continues to limit first the sale of their auto movements (and next, the parts need to maintain them), there's going to be a need for more automatic movements from different sources. Where are all the micros and startups getting their autos from? Miyota, for the most part. If this keeps up, pretty soon, the Swiss are gonna look around and find that nobody will care whether they are offering movements and parts, because the market will have sailed on them in just a few years.
Anybody that knows me here knows I'm a Swiss watch fan first and foremost, but the Swiss and their "It's my ball and I'm going home" attitude pisses me off as much as anyone else - and now with the advent of smart and iWatches coming imminently, they better damn hope they don't get another quartz revolution on their hands. Add to that their bent on snooty poot marketing instead of educating consumers as to their merits, and you have a perfect recipe for a slump.
Luftwafflles wrote:Admittedly, being a philistine, I never understood the big deal about a movement being in house. If a movement is reasonably reliable, and reasonably accurate, who gives a fuck if the parts are imported from Mars? Is it just the props to the manufacturer that makes all the parts in house? If so, those are some pretty expensive props. Particularly since those companies do nothing to show evidence of such claims, beyond their assurance.
TemerityB wrote:Luftwafflles wrote:Admittedly, being a philistine, I never understood the big deal about a movement being in house. If a movement is reasonably reliable, and reasonably accurate, who gives a fuck if the parts are imported from Mars? Is it just the props to the manufacturer that makes all the parts in house? If so, those are some pretty expensive props. Particularly since those companies do nothing to show evidence of such claims, beyond their assurance.
I had a friend that worked for a big watch retailer (I won't mention which one, but the job fit him to a "T"), and he used to make fun of watch blogs and sites because of all the complaining about where movements and parts were made. To paraphrase: "Hey, does your watch run? Does it keep accurate time? Then what the fuck are you complaining about?"
Late to this party -- sorry.jason_recliner wrote: ↑February 27th 2015, 11:38amIt's the problem with the Swiss industry in general. Resting on their laurels for too long, too much smoke and mirrors, not enough adding actual value. So they talk crap to try and convince that Swiss is worth some kind of premium. In the meantime, the Japanese offerings just get better and better.
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