Watchlords

Falstaff wrote:Montblanc is the the Rolex of pens.

Hadn't considered them in that way...though if you did wouldn't they be more like a Tudor?

Perhaps you didn't say what you think you did.

I'm pretty clear about my intent with the comment. But if you need the gotcha, go for it

bedlam wrote:

Falstaff wrote:Montblanc is the the Rolex of pens.

Hadn't considered them in that way...though if you did wouldn't they be more like a Tudor?

Perhaps you didn't say what you think you did.

I'm pretty clear about my intent with the comment. But if you need the gotcha, go for it

Nope, not looking for points. Just wondering why the same "overpriced for what you get" argument you've often made against Rolex wouldn't apply to Montblanc - which in my mind at least occupies the exact same territory in pens that Rolex does in watches? I can't quite see the Tudor comparison in that Tudor is more inexpensive line than Rolex whereas Montblanc, like Rolex, occupies the top spot in its manufacture. Unless of course Montblanc has introduced an ultra-luxe line (other than their limited editions) in the years since I had more than a passing interest in fine fountain pens.

Falstaff wrote:

bedlam wrote:

Falstaff wrote:Montblanc is the the Rolex of pens.

Hadn't considered them in that way...though if you did wouldn't they be more like a Tudor?

Perhaps you didn't say what you think you did.

I'm pretty clear about my intent with the comment. But if you need the gotcha, go for it

Nope, not looking for points. Just wondering why the same "overpriced for what you get" argument you've often made against Rolex wouldn't apply to Montblanc - which in my mind at least occupies the exact same territory in pens that Rolex does in watches? I can't quite see the Tudor comparison in that Tudor is more inexpensive line than Rolex whereas Montblanc, like Rolex, occupies the top spot in its manufacture. Unless of course Montblanc has introduced an ultra-luxe line (other than their limited editions) in the years since I had more than a passing interest in fine fountain pens.

I guess, like Smells, I don't see Montblanc as a particularly high-end pen. I certainly wouldn't have compared them with the likes of Rolex in the watch world.

And lets be clear; I don't dislike Rolex. I think the Submariner line is over-priced and functionally sub-par as a dive watch. The Daytona has similar issues with price and function IMO (poor dial readability for a chrono). The Sky-Dweller is technically interesting but visually an abomination. Classics like the Datejust are great watches but not my thing. The Explorer II is fabulous. The modern Sea-Dweller gives me an erection.

I do dislike the Rolex hype.

I'd tend to go along with the notion that Rolex and Montblanc occupy similar places in brand awareness. Specifically both brands have extended beyond their target markets. The guy that tells time with his cell phone has heard of Rolex and the guy that does his writing with whatever ball point is chained to the desk has heard of Montblanc - in many cases they're the same guy.

Once one contracts either or both of the WIS and PIS (pen idiot savant) viruses both brands gain a lot of context but only with the respective _IS.

Most normal folks will see more success projected by a two-tone Sub and Montblanc than a white gold Patek Nautilus and 10K Namiki Emperor. I think the marketing folks referred to this as "brand value". Rolex and Montblanc have it in job lots. Patek and Namiki have it but only in a very narrowly focused market.

bedlam wrote:

Falstaff wrote:

bedlam wrote:

Falstaff wrote:Montblanc is the the Rolex of pens.

Hadn't considered them in that way...though if you did wouldn't they be more like a Tudor?

Perhaps you didn't say what you think you did.

I'm pretty clear about my intent with the comment. But if you need the gotcha, go for it

Nope, not looking for points. Just wondering why the same "overpriced for what you get" argument you've often made against Rolex wouldn't apply to Montblanc - which in my mind at least occupies the exact same territory in pens that Rolex does in watches? I can't quite see the Tudor comparison in that Tudor is more inexpensive line than Rolex whereas Montblanc, like Rolex, occupies the top spot in its manufacture. Unless of course Montblanc has introduced an ultra-luxe line (other than their limited editions) in the years since I had more than a passing interest in fine fountain pens.

I guess, like Smells, I don't see Montblanc as a particularly high-end pen. I certainly wouldn't have compared them with the likes of Rolex in the watch world.

And lets be clear; I don't dislike Rolex. I think the Submariner line is over-priced and functionally sub-par as a dive watch. The Daytona has similar issues with price and function IMO (poor dial readability for a chrono). The Sky-Dweller is technically interesting but visually an abomination. Classics like the Datejust are great watches but not my thing. The Explorer II is fabulous. The modern Sea-Dweller gives me an erection.

I do dislike the Rolex hype.

Fair enough.

Actually I'm partial to Montblanc myself. I like to use a black resin Meisterstuck Classic fountain pen with an italic nib to fill in my cellarbook, a sterling Meister with medium nib for personal correspondence and a black resin Meister Classic ball pen for lists and such - although my EDC is usually either a yellow or bordeaux Aurora Ipsilon ball pen.

I like Montblanc too. I want a white one and a sterling one when I grow up over here.

Also, I love Rolex. I love the SUBMARINER and Daytona and the Explorer Eye Eye (I will have one one day).

I rather fancy a platinum Rolex one day.