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My dad was a huge auction guy, we had boxes of stuff everywhere. Both at my place, my brothers place and at my parents place.
I was looking for something in the outbuilding today and found a box of small junk items. I found this, it looks like it is from 1985, so it isn’t the expensive one from the Vietnam war that everyone wants, but still pretty cool.

Great find!
Better check the other boxes

Recliner can probably tell me everything I need to know about this.

What the! That doesn't mean 1985. They didn't make these in 1985. I think it means 5th month of 1968 or something. It's been a while.

Assuming your father was not a pioneer of the frankenwatch industry that's the real deal. I've never seen Seiko lume age to that colour.

Great find!

Demand for these as you know has gone through the roof, yours is all original, unmolested, looks to be in good condition, and I think the unusual lume patina will appeal to collectors.

It's not a bad watch per se but it's a bit old, a bit rough, and isn't even Swiss. I could give you, say AU$300 (Conjurer is handy with the conversions) if you just want somebody to take it off your hands.

jason_recliner wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 4:09pm

What the! That doesn't mean 1985. They didn't make these in 1985. I think it means 5th month of 1968 or something. It's been a while.

Assuming your father was not a pioneer of the frankenwatch industry that's the real deal. I've never seen Seiko lume age to that colour.

Great find!

Oh shit. I’m thinking he got it at an auction and tossed it in the cigar box. That outbuilding I was in has mostly his auction stuff he thought was junk. My dad knew nothing about watches, fixing them or mods. Unless the the place he bought it at had someone who did mods, but I doubt it. Small farming podunk mid west towns around here.

Possibly the hands have been replaced, and /or somebody at some stage has relumed the dial and bezel pip. Hard to say without a really close look. But that wouldn't detract much from the watch.

Does it run? The 6105 is basic but it's a good movement. No plastic.

It starts and quits.

You got a very rare piece Allison.
'Water Proof' on the dial versus 'Water Resist', original as hell by the looks of it.
I am so jealous!

If it were mine, I'd get the movement serviced, replace the gaskets and polish the crystal.

Congrats on the find!

My dad got a Seiko dive watch in Hong Kong when he was in Vietnam 1970-1972. As a kid, I loved to wind it for him. He also had a gold pocket watch from an uncle that worked the railroads. I hope my sister has that and not the thieving nurses that were supposed to take care of him.

produced May, 1968.

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seikodiverfinder/


http://www.watchsleuth.com/seikodatefin ... al=8513-42


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Someone on the Wrist Sushi forum said it’s a 6105 so it isn’t a Willard. I’m sorry, I looked up the number and Google is full of ones like mine that call it a Willard, I guess that’s wrong though.
I apologize for calling it a Willard. I guess I’ll just call it an old Seiko.

Yeah ok the 'Willard' (8110) has the asymmetric case. It's more unique and distinctive. But the locking - as opposed to screw down - crown doesn't age well and is susceptible to wear. Maybe the 8110 is more collectible but it's starting to become a museum piece. The 8009 is a vintage Seiko diver you can wear and enjoy.

jason_recliner wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 4:13pm

Demand for these as you know has gone through the roof, yours is all original, unmolested, looks to be in good condition, and I think the unusual lume patina will appeal to collectors.

It's not a bad watch per se but it's a bit old, a bit rough, and isn't even Swiss. I could give you, say AU$300 (Conjurer is handy with the conversions) if you just want somebody to take it off your hands.

AU$300 is about 37 cents 'Merican.

That's a cool watch, Svaggie. Like the Reclaimer sez, I'd get it cleaned and running, and wear it with pride. Who gives a fuck if it isn't a Willard? What the fuck do rats know about watches, anyway?

Just don't put it on a NATO. Fuck that shit.

svaglic wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 4:57pm

Someone on the Wrist Sushi forum said it’s a 6105 so it isn’t a Willard. I’m sorry, I looked up the number and Google is full of ones like mine that call it a Willard, I guess that’s wrong though.
I apologize for calling it a Willard. I guess I’ll just call it an old Seiko.

6105-8110 Is a willard

Caliber
Movement Automatic
Movement/Caliber 6105B
Number of jewels 17


Correct markings, correct dial, caseback and movement.


As to wrist sushi, I would the Seiko forum.

koimaster wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 11:01pm

svaglic wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 4:57pm

Someone on the Wrist Sushi forum said it’s a 6105 so it isn’t a Willard. I’m sorry, I looked up the number and Google is full of ones like mine that call it a Willard, I guess that’s wrong though.
I apologize for calling it a Willard. I guess I’ll just call it an old Seiko.

6105-8110 Is a willard

Caliber
Movement Automatic
Movement/Caliber 6105B
Number of jewels 17


Correct markings, correct dial, caseback and movement.


As to wrist sushi, I would the Seiko forum.

I’m not 8110 though, I’m 8009. When I look up 6105-8009 on Google, there are pages of it being called a Willard.

That's a terrific watch. What strikes me is the ridiculous amount of value society places on Hollywood, especially when compared to literature.
I saw this movie when it came out (I had to, ironically for an English class) and it was ruined for me by Martin Sheen's previous (creepily awesome) performance in The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane. I kept thinking of him as Frank Hallet. Sheen (born Ramon Estevez) BTW named himself after the Bishop Fulton Sheen.

jason_recliner wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 4:40pm

If it were mine, I'd get the movement serviced, replace the gaskets and polish the crystal.

Yep same here !

codguy wrote: ↑

April 24th 2021, 6:06am

jason_recliner wrote: ↑

April 23rd 2021, 4:40pm

If it were mine, I'd get the movement serviced, replace the gaskets and polish the crystal.

Yep same here !

Yeah, I’m looking for someone to send it to. I definitely want to keep it as much like it is with no new parts. The bezel has some scratches, but not horrendous, the dial is actually very clean, hard to tell under the scratched crystal.

If you can recommend somebody please post it. My own father spent over three years in Vietnam as a first sergeant in the USMC infantry and I have a Citizen and a Seiko of his from the that era that I would like to have serviced, just because they have sentimental value.(Plus, you never know. Ashton Kutcher may wear one in a Hollywood blockbuster and the cost could go through the roof.)

DoctorIvey wrote: ↑

April 24th 2021, 6:19am

If you can recommend somebody please post it. My own father spent over three years in Vietnam as a first sergeant in the USMC infantry and I have a Citizen and a Seiko of his from the that era that I would like to have serviced, just because they have sentimental value.(Plus, you never know. Ashton Kutcher may wear one in a Hollywood blockbuster and the cost could go through the roof.)

I got a good recommendation for a couple of people in Australia, but I’d rather keep it in the USA. The shipping and insurance would probably cost more then the service. I’m still looking.

That's an amazing find... Beautiful watch great aged look. Like the others said; get a service and enjoy it. And Proof was replaced with resist in the early 70's

Willard or not, what an awesome find!

gerdson wrote: ↑

April 24th 2021, 11:50am

Willard or not, what an awesome find!

+1..