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Renato Tourbillon

Post by WatchDorks.Net » April 15th 2011, 2:15pm

Just announced, and I have to admit that I'm pleasantly surprised on all counts:

1. Dial implementation is attractive, with an inner mother-of-pearl dial rather than the unneccessary extra complications.

2. 48mm with a 38mm dial opening is reasonable.

3. The price point is actually lower than the flying tourbillons we saw from Stuhrling and Android. $599 + S&H. Limited edition of 50 per dial color (I'm sure that's 50 this month to be followed by another 50 next month... Image )

4. The fact that they are giving it a lifetime warranty is very nice. None of the other brands have done so. Warranty service on a tourbillon ain't cheap, even a Chinese one.

I think the bit in their marketing schtick about the movement being made by Android is pure B.S. It's a Chinese flying tourbillon movement. Period.

Now, that being said, my experience with Renato (ethics notwithstanding) from a build quality perspective is that they are leaps and bounds above Invicta, Stuhrling, Android, or anyone else who was at ShopNBC. I've yet to ever examine a Renato that wasn't top notch from a fit and finish standpoint.

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Dear Friend,

Have you been wondering to yourself, where are new models from Renato? Well, today is an extremely proud & historic day for Renato Watches, Inc. After two years in the making, we would like to debut to you the first ever Renato Tourbillon!

Many of you have come to know Renato as a brand that strictly uses Swiss Made Movements in our timepieces. As a company we plan to overall commit to that, but at the same time offer unique opportunities & use only extremely special movements that have been built from the ground up by Renato in partnership with some of the most technologically advanced movement manufacturers in the Far East. This not only allows us to assure you the quality of these movements compared to other Tourbillon movements in the industry, but we are also able to bring it to you at a phenomenal & unheard of price point. This allows us to offer you a broader spectrum of timepieces, as well as maintain the strict & high quality you have all become accustomed to with Renato timepieces.

This first ever & first of series timepiece is a design inspiration of the Beast, but a totally different experience. Here is why....

* Case: A 48mm Diameter Beast Inspired Masterpiece. Perfectly rounded, smoothened, brushed & polished… this timepiece can compete with many multi thousand dollars priced timepieces currently in the market. We have also enlarged the dial opening to 38mm.

* Bracelet: Refined from the original Beast bracelet, the three-dimensional look & feel of the finely cut stainless steel mimics the end piece design of the case perfectly. You will never want to take this timepiece off your wrist due to the feel of the well-rounded high graded 316L stainless steel wrapped around your wrist.

* Crystal: An extremely hardened & domed Sapphire Crystal with 6 layers of Anti-Reflective coating for reduced sun light exposure.

* Dial: A brand new dial execution. This dial execution features a refined large claus de paris circumference with a deep & rich center of Grade A Mother of Pearl. This will be by far once of the nicest dials we have created to date. Your dial will also state your limited edition number.

* Case Back: A Sapphire Crystal, orange tinted exhibition case back. This wonderfully display's the masterful functionality of the 46 hour reserve Tourbillon Movement.

* Movement: Built by the Renato Watch Company, this mechanical Tourbillon is 30mm in diameter, 5mm thick and features a 46-hour power reserve! Built of Grade AAA components, we can assure you it as extremely reliable. Otherwise, we would not sell it!



Each and every Renato Tourbillon will come with an automatic lifetime warrantee. This is a great testament to the faith we have in our movements & timepieces that we build & will stand behind them for a lifetime! Your coveted timepiece will also come packaged in our high end alligator wrapped watch box ($100 value). This is usually reserved for our extremely unique timepieces.

The retail value of the Renato Tourbillon is $1999.99. Due to your loyalty & support of our company, we will allow you today to purchase this timepiece at just $749.99. If you finalize your purchase during the next week, you will be able to take advantage of our 20% discount voucher which will bring your total on the Tourbillon to just $599.99! Not only will this be one of the best Tourbillon timepieces you can buy at this price point or even quadruple this price point, but it is also one of the best priced in the industry! This is mainly due to the fact that Renato allows you to purchase these wonderful timepieces at manufacturer direct pricing and cutting out the middle man. Once you select the Tourbillon of our choice and checkout, simply enter in the Voucher Code TU770 for an automatic 20% discount on your entire shopping cart.

Please note that we were only able to build a total of 150 timepieces across three variations (50 of each). Any units that are not purchased during this event will be removed from our website and reserved for our international markets at the $1999.99 price point since there are distributors & wholesalers involved. Buy now from the manufacturer direct at this extremely special price. This timepiece is a one time production, limited edition & first of series and will be numbered so on your case back. This a timepiece that will be one of the greats & a true collectors piece.

Happy Passover & Easter from Renato!

Thank you for your loyalty & support,

Sincerely,

Daniel Mink
CEO
Renato Watches, Inc.
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Re: Renato Tourbillon

Post by foghorn » April 15th 2011, 2:58pm

Why are all of these shit TV brands coming out with Chinese tourbillons? (Screw you Mink - your Tourbillon movement is Chinese and not built by Renato)
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Post by boscoe » April 15th 2011, 2:59pm

Still too big for me.
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Post by foghorn » April 15th 2011, 3:03pm

boscoe wrote:
Why are you sticking to the "Stage Name?"


'Cuz it rhymes with Fink,Stink, and Missing Link.
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Re: Renato Tourbillon

Post by Mark1 » April 15th 2011, 4:21pm

On its face, the lifetime warranty would seem to be a huge plus. The issue with that is whose lifetime are they referring to? Personally, I don't expect Renato to survive very long with no real sales outlets other than direct.
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Re: Renato Tourbillon

Post by Falstaff » April 15th 2011, 6:01pm

Note that Dan'l is offering a lifetime "warrantee". Wonder if this is at all similar to a lifetime warranty. After all, legal actions stand or fall on such distinctions. And what was that about "once you select the tourbillon of our choice...."? Typo, you think? Also, "This timepiece is a one time production, limited edition & first of a series..." Say what?

Actually, in view of his standard busy executions, I didn't think Danny was capable of such restraint - it is hardly gaudy at all and although the "hi def" pics Koi has posted make that watch look better than it has any right to, I do still see the same clunky case that der Minker seems determined to soldier along with. Amortized, I suppose. Additionally I dislike stuff that parades its "exclusivity" by writing "limited edition" all over it - but at least it doesn't have the word "tourbillon" printed on it with an arrow pointing to the cage.

I see all those at the top of the thread all say "Limited Edition 1/50" on the dial. Since Danno has stated that they will be individually numbered on the back, I guess the dials will simply proclaim them all as 1 of 50. I could do without that too. Don't know if I'm damning with faint praise or praising with faint damn 'cause I've certainly seen worse, but even if I liked it, 48mm is too big, so personally, I'll pass - with prejudice.
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Post by jaw » April 15th 2011, 6:21pm

Agree with the OP and others here - Probably the best looking and executed of the latest Chinese Tourbillion offerings. Was also surprised by the lifetime warranty (such as it is for Renato).

But for me it's just a too late, me too effort. While I still have some Renatos I really like, I will not own this one.
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Post by Guest » April 15th 2011, 7:05pm

foghorn wrote:Why are all of these shit TV brands coming out with Chinese tourbillons? (Screw you Mink - your Tourbillon movement is Chinese and not built by Renato)


And this is after he promised to never use not swiss movements in his watches last year.

whatever. I love how it says it made by Renato, since when do they know how to make movements?

And those sheep at WG are going shit face over them too.
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Re: Renato Tourbillon

Post by WatchDorks.Net » April 15th 2011, 7:23pm

Seattle wrote:TV brand, Chinese movement....meh


Playing devil's advocate for just a second, I understand the usual "Chinese movement", "Chinese crap", "Chinese junk" mantra that usually gets trotted out here daily, but when it comes to a true 1-minute flying tourbillon movement, can anyone show me one that ISN'T Chinese that doesn't cost 5 figures or more?

I happen to like the flying tourbillon concept, and I'm more than happy to consider alternatives, but as far as I know, there aren't any in even remotely the same price strata.

While I find the Stuhrling and Android executions gaudy, along with virtually all of the ones found on eBay (with the exception of the unbranded Millionsmart models) this one is a fairly simple and tasteful execution, all things considered.
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Post by Aqua Homer » April 15th 2011, 7:42pm

The problem, Watchdorks.net, is it is the Television watch brands and forums that make these members and consumers believe that the "tourbillion" is the end all be all for the consumate "timepiece collector". The shit is stupid, incaccurate, and appeals to simple minded television sales person watching folk. If Jim, Mike, Wing, Daniel, or Larry say the tourbillion is the thing to have, they basically create their own market. It is total bullshit and you know it. You seem to favor these tv watch brands a little too much in my opinion. You like to play "devils advocate" but you know you love you some Android, Croton, and Renato. You are flying slightly under the radar here at Lords, but I've got you!
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Post by WatchDorks.Net » April 15th 2011, 8:22pm

Taking you off my ignore list for just a second since I figured it was a direct response to me...

1. The only flying tourbillon watch I currently own is not a TV brand. I happen to like the novelty of the mechanism, as do a lot of people. Sue me.

2. Yes, there are isolated "TV Brand" models that I own and like. The same can be said of MANY of the regulars here. Not every one takes the same FUCKEVERYSINGLEWATCHORBRANDTHATHASEVERBEENSHOWNONTV approach that you do.

Yes, the majority of watch brands and watches are crap. However, that doesn't mean that there CAN'T be isolated instances that one can like or admire. There are plenty of people here that still refer to this particular Android or that particular Swiss Legend watch that they own and like. Hell, there are people here that even own... dare I say it... an INVICTA! *GASP*

It's not an "all or nothing" principle with everyone else the way it is with you.

Your hardline stance that EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING SUCKS is fine and dandy for you, but not everyone takes that same approach and that doesn't mean they're wrong and you're right.

You make so many incorrect assumptions about people and their collecting preferences, it's fucking lame. Not everyone views the world through your myopic lens.

Feel free to hate all you want, but that doesn't mean you're not a complete and utter douchebag.

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Post by Aqua Homer » April 15th 2011, 8:45pm

If you had been around these watch fora for more than five minutes, you would recognize that I am an Invicta apologist from waaay back. 2006 as a matter of fact. I own to this day a highly modified and re-lumed SANII three hand. A good watch if I do say so myself. Maybe not everyone here is as astute as I am, but every post you author has a very faint, but discernable TV fanboi slant to it.
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Post by nous defions » April 16th 2011, 1:00am

Aqua Homer wrote:If you had been around these watch fora for more than five minutes, you would recognize that I am an Invicta apologist from waaay back. 2006 as a matter of fact. I own to this day a highly modified and re-lumed SANII three hand. A good watch if I do say so myself. Maybe not everyone here is as astute as I am, but every post you author has a very faint, but discernable TV fanboi slant to it.
If you wish, I can make you a personal project of mine, and run you right the fuck out of here, cause you are outmatched. If not, cool. I dont care either way.


I like it!

And, the Renato... well, for some reason, all Renatos seem to look pretty much the same to me after a while. It's a good looking watch, but it does not do anything for me. On the Invicta topic, I was offered an Invicta Model No. 3955 last week (SAN III; ETA 7751 movement) and I was almost about to purchase it, until I met up with George Fox and he showed me his NFW case filled with the Viperfish model. I purchased one right then and there. The SAN III will have to wait. BTW, my first thought about the SAN III - if I purchased it - was to also send it to Kent Parks (Everest Watchworks) and have it re-lumed. How did your re-lume turn out?
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Re: Renato Tourbillon

Post by Seattle » April 16th 2011, 2:27am

Sorry, let me clarify.....

Meh, Chinese crap...TV brand.
The fact that my opposing opinion on a POS TV watch caused you grief speaks volumes....think about it.


WatchDorks.Net wrote:
Seattle wrote:TV brand, Chinese movement....meh


Playing devil's advocate for just a second, I understand the usual "Chinese movement", "Chinese crap", "Chinese junk" mantra that usually gets trotted out here daily, but when it comes to a true 1-minute flying tourbillon movement, can anyone show me one that ISN'T Chinese that doesn't cost 5 figures or more?

I happen to like the flying tourbillon concept, and I'm more than happy to consider alternatives, but as far as I know, there aren't any in even remotely the same price strata.

While I find the Stuhrling and Android executions gaudy, along with virtually all of the ones found on eBay (with the exception of the unbranded Millionsmart models) this one is a fairly simple and tasteful execution, all things considered.
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Post by WatchDorks.Net » April 16th 2011, 6:05am

Seattle wrote:The fact that my opposing opinion on a POS TV watch caused you grief speaks volumes....think about it.


Don't flatter yourself. Just because I reply to you and ask a follow-up question doesn't mean your post was "causing me grief".

I'll try using shorter words this time, because apparently longer ones confuse you. I'll also type this very slowly in case you don't read very fast.

1. Me like tourbillon concept.

2. Me understand you no like any Chinese watch.

3. If not buy Chinese one, what other option that can afford?


In case you're too obtuse to realize it, there's a serious question in there. I understand the hatred for everything Chinese here. Are there ANY options out there for someone who wants to own an affordable (real) tourbillon yet not go Chinese? Dropping 5 figures on a Swiss tourbillon isn't an option.
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Post by Seattle » April 16th 2011, 6:51am

Trust me, not the least bit flattered.
Let me put it to you like this; Chinese, TV brands are like chicks with dicks.
Dress them up, make them "affordable" but at the end of the day they are still chicks with dicks.
If you found one pretty enough to ignore the truth.....have had it.

I don't care what watches you like or dislike nor should you care what I like or dislike.
I was just stating an opinion on a generic post about another POS TV watch.

Sorry, forgot about your question: In case you're too obtuse to realize it, there's a serious question in there. I understand the hatred for everything Chinese here. Are there ANY options out there for someone who wants to own an affordable (real) tourbillon yet not go Chinese? Dropping 5 figures on a Swiss tourbillon isn't an option.
Easy Answer...just because there are no affordable tourbillons does not make a POS TV brand an option, just say no. I want an affordable 2010 Ferrari....a cheap ass Chinese knock off would not be an option.

Maybe send a PM to MD....oh wait, wrong forum.

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Seattle wrote:The fact that my opposing opinion on a POS TV watch caused you grief speaks volumes....think about it.


Don't flatter yourself. Just because I reply to you and ask a follow-up question doesn't mean your post was "causing me grief".

I'll try using shorter words this time, because apparently longer ones confuse you. I'll also type this very slowly in case you don't read very fast.

1. Me like tourbillon concept.

2. Me understand you no like any Chinese watch.

3. If not buy Chinese one, what other option that can afford?


In case you're too obtuse to realize it, there's a serious question in there. I understand the hatred for everything Chinese here. Are there ANY options out there for someone who wants to own an affordable (real) tourbillon yet not go Chinese? Dropping 5 figures on a Swiss tourbillon isn't an option.
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