JtN© wrote:LIES ALL LIES!!! wrote:TemerityB wrote:Lies,
I agree with you. These guys are of the cut-and-run, MLM style of salesmanship. In fact, S. Fingers of late has been saying things like "don't think, just buy it," which is a classic MLM con - don't let your dupe have a minute to think for himself. I honestly think that Lalo just thinks that once his lies are told, always rattled off in speedy talk, they just evaporate. When he's cornered, it's "he misspoke" or, as this has been inferred on WG, Skel actually mentioned once that it was a language thing!
It's just snake oil. If the shit really hits the fan, I predict this: Invicta, at least on TV, will do what religious figures like Peter Popoff or shady business guys like Kevin Trudeau do. They'll just go away...but just long enough so that people forget their original transgressions. Then they'll reappear and start the whole con all over again.
Yep, or just come back under a new brand name and restart the whole con again.
Hmmm ... now that is interesting, especially since they own the patents and trademarks for Imperious, that new brand that Skelton had/has been taunting so much at one point. So interesting as to how even the logo for it looks almost to me as the Invicta "I" with almost the same Fuzzy Wabbit type hunk of fur in the middle of it like the Invicta I Force logo has now.
Yep, after all is said and done and Invicta is out of business before the Federal legal actions Imperious will be up and running and producing all the latest and greatest WatchGeek timepieces.
Shhhh.... No one is supposed to know Imperious is really Invicta. That was until some one looked up the trademarks and patents. Now according to Jim, Invicta is just helping them get set up because as we all know Invicta and Eyal are great humanitarians with a huge love and respect for horology and want to help future competition on Shop NBC by establishing an upstart brand that is being billed as "Above Reserve".
Honestly, I doubt this will be the end of Invicta, even if something pans out from the Swiss Federation. Look at the D/D fiasco. D/D could have had Invicta by the balls in a court of law for liable and slander but Eyal threw a lot o money at them and D/D gladly took it. Better to make a lot of money now and sell my product to them then wait for years for a possible payoff in a court of law where the only thing certain is court and lawyer fees. I imagine if the Swiss Federation makes any headway into this Invicta will just repeat this recipe.
Eventually however, the Invicta name will be mud totally. They are already the black sheep of the horology world, but even those who do not know about watches and who do a simple Google will know to stay away from Invicta too. That always happens with cons like these. It is at that point Eyal will just rebrand after an adequate amount of time. The crap "As Seen on TV" products are a perfect example. They market heavy, sell millions, word gets out the products sucks shit and sales tank after they get exposed, the company disappears, and 5 - 10 years later the product is back under a new name with new spokesman and the cycle repeats again. See Shamwow (chamois cloths), Mr. Steamy, the laundry rubber ball that you never need soap, every juicer under the sun, resort communities in Florida aka swamp land, Hollywood 2-day diet, Sobakowa pillows, car paint scratch repair kits, car waxes, and the belt that shocks your abs so you never have to another sit up for verification.
Honestly though, I think Eyal is much more worried about SNBC folding then this. I think the reason Eyal has dived into the gray market so much is to prepare for the eventual folding of SNBC which looks more and more likely as every day passes and revenue reports come back every quarter. I doubt QVC or HSN would take on Invicta so pump and dump at Amazon, Overstock, and the DOD sites is all that is left. Unless of course they rebrand and try to go for a real retail presence.
Interesting times ahead either way! :jo;jj:
