Robert Gattshall vs. Eddie Phluff--Who Is The Better Reviewer?

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Robert Gattshall vs. Eddie Phluff--Who Is The Better Reviewer?

Post by conjurer » December 11th 2012, 9:03pm

Eddie Phluff's review--err, re-voo of the Redline 5100--something:

http://phluffswatchstuff.wordpress.com/2012/12/10/watch-re-voo-red-line-50011-rg-01-rpm/#comments

And Robert Gattshall's review of the Android Divermaster:

http://time2talkwatches.com/Blog/?p=665

Now, some would say that we're talking apples and oranges here--and of course they'd be right. Eddie Phluff is a fictional character, a geek to end all geeks, making somewhat cruel but very funny fun of the Geek lifestyle, whereas Mr. Gattshall is just a fucking moron with delusions of grandeur. But, there are some similarities.

From Eddie:

First off, this particular model has my favorite automatic movement in the world: The Citysen/Miyota 8215 (which I thought I was buying in a previoos watch, but then I found this one so I feel better). Available for a fraction of the prices of the Swatchy stuff, the veteranable 8215 is the working man’s friend. It has 21 jewels (like I care, but I’ll report it anyway) and it does everything that an ETA 2824 does except jump up and bite you in the ass, cost wise. I’ll take the Minoltas all six days of the week.

Now, from Mr. Gattshall's Very Professional Review:

The Miyota Cal. 9015 automatic movement is without a doubt above and beyond reliable. It is advertised of having an accuracy of -10~30 seconds/day but I haven’t seen it loose or gain anywhere near that. The running time on the 9015 is beyond 42 hours when fully wound, which should be about 40 turns of the crown. This 24 jewel movement’s vibration frequency is 28800 vibrations per hour (vph) and the automatic winding structure is clockwise. The second hand on the DME 9015 has a smooth sweeping motion to it, the kind that you would typically expect with much more expensive movement. The accuracy and reliable of the movement in the DME 9015 is truly world class!

In some ways, we'd call it even. While Eddie's has more malaprops, Mr. Gattshall's superbly mangled syntax is a joy to read.

Naturally, both being Geeks, they must refer to the size of the watch. Eddie, however, showing the true genius of a great writer, just mentions this in passing:

It’s got everything you’d look for in either a dive or automotic-type of watch, and at 47 muldimeters, it’s plenty big enough. It also has water retendancy at about 330 foot.

But of course Mr. Gattshall has to go off the tracks like an Italian bullet train somewhere, and there he goes, especially with this first sentence that is perhaps one of the fucking dumbest things ever typed on the interwebs:

Proving just how large this timepiece is the case on the DME is 19mm thick causing it to sit atop the wrist like a crown of royalty.

And:

As previously stated it is 50mm in diameter when measured from the 10 o’clock to 4 o’clock position. But if you measure it from the 9 o’clock to 3 o’clock position and include the massive 8mm in diameter crown if is absolutely every bit of 55mm. Keep in my Android is one of the handful of watch makers that truly know how to design and manufacture an oversized timepiece. Meaning that even with all these numbers proving that it is absolutely a beast of a timepiece it fits well on the wrist. Yes you know you have it on but it isn’t distracting in anyway. Wing has designed this timepiece to curve and contour to your wrist regardless of wrist size.

So, I would say that in terms of Geekish reviews, Mr. Gattshall wins, although its a near-run thing. Thoughts?
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Post by Horse Feathers » December 11th 2012, 9:31pm

Since Mr. Phluff's writing is obvious parody he is the clear winner."I here all these terms like “hand decorated” and “jewels” and “the 7750 wobble” and l laugh like a hymen.

Gattshall is completely enamored by himself. IMO his review reads like poorly written version of a JD Piederman Seinfeld bit. Himalayan Walking Boots: “Perfect for keeping your feet resilient when you’re heart aches, and your back aches”
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Post by jason_recliner » December 11th 2012, 10:48pm

Phluff is a MUCH better writer, and also clearly knows a lot more about watches. But Gatshall knows how to use a camera. A Phluff / Gatshall collaboration would relaly set the world of horology on fire.
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Post by AJC » December 12th 2012, 3:37am

Horse Feathers wrote:Since Mr. Phluff's writing is obvious parody he is the clear winner."I here all these terms like “hand decorated” and “jewels” and “the 7750 wobble” and l laugh like a hymen.

Gattshall is completely enamored by himself. IMO his review reads like poorly written version of a JD Piederman Seinfeld bit. Himalayan Walking Boots: “Perfect for keeping your feet resilient when you’re heart aches, and your back aches”


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Post by TemerityB » December 12th 2012, 7:22am

Imagine Phluff AND Gattshall talking about the same watch, one worth over, say 100 bucks. They'd get so excited their heads would explode like that old sci-fi flick Scanners.

Wonder if Gattshall knows about Phluff's blog yet.
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Post by TemerityB » December 12th 2012, 7:26am

Also on Gattshall's site as of two days ago: "10 Questions With Tim Temple." If Robert was any sort of journalist, his first question should have been: "So what caused you to sell out?"
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Post by jason_recliner » December 12th 2012, 1:43pm

One more thing. Gatshall gets the BIG NAMES. Davis, Temple, Viera, Ron... it's like a who's who of anybody who is anybody in the fast paced and intriguing international world of TV watches.

Maybe Gatshall has connections in the Hollywood big leagues, because the aforementioned stars (and I don't use the word lightly) must be incredibly time scarce. Except for Ron, perhaps. But he just keeps on delivering those BIG NAMES.

If Gatshall posts an interview with Skip then I will cream my pants.
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Post by AJC » December 14th 2012, 6:00pm

I'm partial to Tai the Asian Wonder

This is hands down the best and most expensive watch I own. Based on the massive attention, astonishment, bewilderment and shock I have received from this watch, I really don't see the need to get another watch any time soon.

When I was working in the club district, there were guys that had $10,000+ watches that would tuck their tales between their legs and scurry along when they saw the godzilla size rose gold clock on my wrist. In case you're wondering... rose gold is regular gold with a dash of copper in it to give it a reddish/pinkish tone, hence the name rose gold.

The rose tone/black gun metal version (Model No. 3845) I bought was an Anniversary Edition item so I am not sure if they are available for sale anymore.

However, you can get the gold and stainless steel version (Model No. 3469) at::

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VHAO6C?ie=UTF8&tag=04216078-20&l...

Be care guys, if you don't want jaw dropping attention, eye popping shock and awe, etc. I simply recommend you stick with the chrome and stainless steel version (Model No. 3468) which is just as incredibly beautiful in design except without the extra love and attention from the gold plating:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GX3HTC?ie=UTF8&tag=04216078-20&l...

Also, be careful about letting other people windup the watch for you. For some mysterious and unknown reason, people get a kick out of watching all the intertwining gears interact and move as they wind up the watch. A full windup lasts about 3 days so when I was wearing it everyday for work at the clubs, I would wind it up every other day.

There is also a stainless steel and black gun metal version (Model No. 3843) that was made at the same time as my Rose Gold version as part of the Anniversary Edition collection which looks really bad ass as well.

One last note... all these skeletonized Russian Divers use red rubies for all the gear ball bearings because rubies were hard, smooth, and could last a long time.

The only bad thing about these skeletonized Russian Divers is that once you get one, it will be very tough to find another more stunningly beautiful watch.

I hope you derive as much enjoyment out of this watch as I did. Please come back and leave a comment after you get the watch and let the rest of us know how you like it. Enjoy!!!

Someone emailed me and asked about the gold Nixon watch I mentioned in the video that was comparable to this Invicta but not skeletonized and here it is:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RL0TE4?ie=UTF8&tag=04216078-20&l..


this video here has all the geek classics; the people at the jewelry store fawning over your watch, the rolexes and breitlings can't hold a candle to this invicter, etc...
this guy's a real tool.
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