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Re: 15,000 Dogs Slaughtered for Chinese Food Festival

Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 8:55am

TickTocker wrote:There isn't a faucet of civilized life that racism, small or big, veiled or blatant, isn't associated with. I'm happy it's being openly discussed here, but addressing something that divisive when we could use more of the other, isn't going to get anyone anywhere.


Addressing racism openly is better than letting it slide. Always. It's the only way things change. Silence about racism is the problem, exposing it isn't.

Like I said: I _never_ start this stuff. I just name it when I see it.

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Post by TRU-LYE » August 9th 2011, 9:00am

Bigjimzlll wrote:I grew up before the Jim Crowe laws were enforced in the south. Segregation was the norm. We had colored only fountains, restrooms, beaches, resturants and the "back of the bus" was the norm. I never saw a person of color until Jr. High school in real life.With that being said I've had to over come my early upbringing to be bigoted.
wow that's crazy i couldn't imagine not seeing a live white person until h.s, but i can understand being we are different era's
I judge a man by his actions...or intent. I have left over bigotry...it is what it is.
As far as the Chinese...They scare the bejuesus out of me. I fear their power...their numbers and their different belief system. I am on gaurd.
to me this is the real source of racsim fear + ignorance, and by ignorance i mean being uninformed. i think it's natural for us as humans to fear what we don't know or understand.Here is a News Paper article about my High School. It was written in 1999, but it gives a flavor of what it was like where and when I grew up.
http://www.sptimes.com/News/91999/news_pf/Floridian/The_rage_of_a_young_w.shtml
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Post by TRU-LYE » August 9th 2011, 9:17am

AlbertaTime wrote:
TickTocker wrote:There isn't a faucet of civilized life that racism, small or big, veiled or blatant, isn't associated with. I'm happy it's being openly discussed here, but addressing something that divisive when we could use more of the other, isn't going to get anyone anywhere.


Addressing racism openly is better than letting it slide. Always. It's the only way things change. Silence about racism is the problem, exposing it isn't.

Like I said: I _never_ start this stuff. I just name it when I see it.

What you have to understand is you/we will never be able to end racism. As long as there are at least two separate groups of people on this planet. there will always be racism. Any culture that you look at there are forms of racism interwoven into the core of said society. This goes for all racial groups across the board.

You see this type of behavior in whites, blacks, Hispanics, etc… for example in this country there is an unspoken rift or divide between light & dark skin blacks that some say leads back to slavery. You can see the same things with west Indians where a lot of those of east Indian origin don’t get along with those of African origin and vice-a-versa.
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Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 9:40am

TRU-LYE wrote:What you have to understand is you/we will never be able to end racism.


I know racism won't be ended, but it can be minimized. I mean, If I can't change a loudmouthed open racist's mind, then maybe I can help make them quiet and polite, even if just on the surface...that's an improvement, at least :-)

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Post by sandoz » August 9th 2011, 9:50am

AlbertaTime wrote:

Addressing racism openly is better than letting it slide. Always. It's the only way things change. Silence about racism is the problem, exposing it isn't.

Like I said: I _never_ start this stuff. I just name it when I see it.

For someone who uses the words alot, your posts show that you dont have any idea what race or racism mean. According to most anthropologists, the chinese arent a race, they're an ethnic group. Thats why chinese who live outside of china are often called ethnic chinese. Nevertheless the concept of racism is real. Its the notion that one ethnic group is superior to another. No one here has indicated that except for you. BTW, silence about racism is not the problem. Eating dog is the problem.
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Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 9:57am

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sandoz wrote:For someone who uses the words alot, your posts show that you dont have any idea what race or racism mean.


I've made that distinction a number of times through the thread, noting both racial and ethnic hatred. I use the term racism for both because ethnicism is a tedious and cumbersome term, and because most folks know what I mean.

Your petty quibble is noted. Now...do you have any criticism for the racism (or openly expressed ethnic hatred, if you prefer) in this thread...or do you just mildly note that it's present and let that slide because grammar and vocabulary is so much more important to you?

Also, I call utter BS on this from you: "Its the notion that one ethnic group is superior to another. No one here has indicated that except for you". Please, feel free to point me to _anywhere_ I've said the Chinese or anyone are better than anyone else.

You're just inventing that bullshit to back yourself up.
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Post by TRU-LYE » August 9th 2011, 10:06am

AlbertaTime wrote:
TRU-LYE wrote:What you have to understand is you/we will never be able to end racism.


I know racism won't be ended, but it can be minimized. I mean, If I can't change a loudmouthed open racist's mind, then maybe I can help make them quiet and polite, even if just on the surface...that's an improvement, at least :-)

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To be honest with you I would rather know where someone stands up front. As opposed to being caught with my guard down because I allowed myself to get comfortable with them.

love Hendrix's music but in 68 i wasn't even a sparkle in mt dads eye..
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TRU-LYE wrote:To be honest with you I would rather know where someone stands up front. As opposed to being caught with my guard down because I allowed myself to get comfortable with them.

love Hendrix's music but in 68 i wasn't even a sparkle in mt dads eye..


I readily understand your point, and having people express themselves out in the open is one of the very good points of legally open expression. That's why I vastly prefer the American system that way than Canada's "hate speech" tribunals.
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Post by sandoz » August 9th 2011, 10:24am

[quote="AlbertaTime"]
sandoz wrote:
sandoz wrote:For someone who uses the words alot, your posts show that you dont have any idea what race or racism mean.


I've made that distinction a number of times through the thread, noting both racial and ethnic hatred. I use the term racism for both because ethnicism is a tedious and cumbersome term, and because most folks know what I mean.

Your petty quibble is noted. Now...do you have any criticism for the racism (or openly expressed ethnic hatred, if you prefer) in this thread...or do you just mildly note that it's present and let that slide because grammar and vocabulary is so much more important to you?

Also, I call utter BS on this from you: "Its the notion that one ethnic group is superior to another. No one here has indicated that except for you". Please, feel free to point me to _anywhere_ I've said the Chinese or anyone are better than anyone else.

You're just inventing that bullshit to back yourself up.
Apparently you have a problem with comprehension as well as reverse racism. Ive said nothing about your poor grammar, its your misunderstanding of terms that my "petty quibble" is about. As to your last point, you only refer to chinese attributes, never their failings. Your agreeing with others when they do show proven chinese BS is totally gratuitous. Oh yes, the word ethnic is tedious and racism isnt. That makes a lot of sense. Just keep posting. Its becoming amusing.
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Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 10:31am

sandoz wrote:Apparently you have a problem with comprehension as well as reverse racism. Ive said nothing about your poor grammar, its your misunderstanding of terms that my "petty quibble" is about. As to your last point, you only refer to chinese attributes, never their failings. Your agreeing with others when they do show proven chinese BS is totally gratuitous. Oh yes, the word ethnic is tedious and racism isnt. That makes a lot of sense. Just keep posting. Its becoming amusing.


Did you miss where I said grammar and _vocabulary_?

I see you still think criticizing me is more important than criticizing the racial or ethnic hatred, and I note that you also can't actually come up with anywhere I ever said Chinese folks were better.
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Post by Ditchdoc » August 9th 2011, 10:36am

Somehow AT has actually managed to highjack this thread that was condemming an alleged action and turned it all about racism. This is because the actions of China are indefensible. He has no argument so he calls everyone "racists".

Horseshit!

Again, I don't know why you have labeled someone a "racist" just because they disagree with your opinion. It's like Bush calling people that disagreed with the Iraq war "un-American". Everyone here that has posted their opinion are condemming the deplorable actions of dog eaters, counterfeiters, unethical business practices etc. I still don't know WTF you get baby eaters. Only a narrow minded idiot would confuse the use of "Chinese" to mean every Chinese person on the planet.

Face it, you just can't handle ANY critisism of China. You seem to be alone in your defensive attempts. Only one of the following would still be here after the beating you have taken

1. You are a Masacist complete with gag ball in your night stand drawer.

2. You are a hard line communist party supporter trying to masqarade as a libertarian.

3. You're pussy whipped from some mail order bride that desparately wants out of that country and your're going to pick her up and meet the parents.

4. You're a complete moron.

I'm not sure which one you are and I really don't care but everyone that has posted with critisism of China is NOT a racists including myself you self rightous elitus douchebag.
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Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 10:45am

Ditchdoc wrote:Somehow AT has actually managed to highjack this thread that was condemming an alleged action and turned it all about racism. ...everyone that has posted with critisism of China is NOT a racists


I never ever said anyone with a criticism of China was racist (that's just you inventing stuff)---but a number of the posts in this thread absolutely [i]were[/i] racist (or exhibited ethnic hatred...take your pick).

Like I said earlier...I have no need of ethics lessons from you if you're more angry at me than them.
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Post by Ditchdoc » August 9th 2011, 11:57am

You are misinterpreting my post to have emotions that aren't there (thats you making stuff up). I'm not angry with you or "them". I'm indifferent to you and as far as "them" goes, I call them like I see them. I criticize actions and what their government stands for, not people.

As a whole China sucks ass. Their actions are indefensible and anyone that supports them are ill informed and has never lived under the repression of communism. It's easy to say a place isn't so bad when you've never been there.

They do not follow the rules of common civilization. If they can make a buck, they'll do it no matter how unethical or who else's safety it puts at risk even their own.
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After 4 pages of this goobers drivel I'm beginning to hate Canadians Image
After all, no ham-wristed louts complained when all watches were 34mm - no cries of "looks like a little girl's watch on my wrist!" Like King Canute on the beach, that's where I draw the line - come what may.

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Ditchdoc wrote:I'm indifferent to you


Total bullshit. If you were truly indifferent you wouldn't be paying any attention to what I write and you wouldn't spend any time insulting me.
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Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 12:27pm

Ditchdoc wrote:Only a narrow minded idiot would confuse the use of "Chinese" to mean every Chinese person on the planet.


Yeah, sure...exactly like "only a narrow minded idiot would object" if you just used "the Blacks" to mean "not every black person" but just "black people who steal stuff", or "the Germans" when what you really mean is only "the Nazis".

**snort** You trot out disingenuous garbage like that, and still feel entitled to call _me_ a moron? I mean, do _you_ even buy your own excuses?

Yer funny.
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Post by Ditchdoc » August 9th 2011, 12:33pm

AlbertaTime wrote:
Ditchdoc wrote:I'm indifferent to you


Total bullshit. If you were truly indifferent you wouldn't be paying any attention to what I write and you wouldn't spend any time insulting me.


At first it was the topic but now it's just fun. Don't flatter yourself peckerhead.

Enjoy your cheap base metal watches.

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Post by AlbertaTime » August 9th 2011, 1:13pm

Ditchdoc wrote:
AlbertaTime wrote:
Ditchdoc wrote:I'm indifferent to you


Total bullshit. If you were truly indifferent you wouldn't be paying any attention to what I write and you wouldn't spend any time insulting me.

At first it was the topic but now it's just fun. Don't flatter yourself peckerhead.

Enjoy your cheap base metal watches.


I'm not flattering myself. I'm just exposing your rationalizing, self-justifying, inconsistent bullshit in plain language and right out in the open. But hey, feel free to expend a lot of energy and as many posts as you wish in your efforts to prove how "indifferent" you are to my presence. That'll work. Image.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of my Chinese watches have full (and generally milled) stainless cases. If I needed base metal I'd look for cheap old Swiss pin-pallet crap or some mushroom brand stuff...but that's not what I buy.

So you're wrong there, too.
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Post by Ditchdoc » August 9th 2011, 2:22pm

I appreciate your permission to continue to post. Do you fancy yourself a self appointed mod?

In all your defending of China, I have yet to hear you give a redeeming quality. You simply back pedal, make excuses or pick and choose to what you respond.

I'm not trying to give you an ethics lesson but you are in desperate need of deprogramming.

China, the corrupt counterfeit capital of the world sucks ass and I think you really know this as well.

Perhaps your RPC agenda would be easier forwarded at a replica site where there are many like minds.

You're laughable and much more deserving of the title.

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