Tudor Is the New Rolex

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Can you guys give me some models of Milus to consider?
There's only three. I have the Snow Star, live it. There's that Archimedes diver, like good if you're into divers. And they have a base model called the Lab or something. It's a bit Bauhaus, has a fibreglass dial, not really my thing.
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Re: Tudor Is the New Rolex

Post by kevco » September 20th 2021, 8:50am

jason_recliner wrote:
September 20th 2021, 8:04am
kevco wrote:
September 20th 2021, 7:13am
Can you guys give me some models of Milus to consider?
There's only three. I have the Snow Star, live it. There's that Archimedes diver, like good if you're into divers. And they have a base model called the Lab or something. It's a bit Bauhaus, has a fibreglass dial, not really my thing.
I found a Snow Star that is priced much less than the Tudor. I will definitively consider.
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Post by 3Flushes » September 20th 2021, 3:04pm

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if you want something very near to Rolex quality for the old Rollie prices, then Tudor is your path.
Yep, particularly a Tudor that uses a Breitling movement...............
And the MT 5613 is available in the Black Bay chronograph for just over $5,000! (Ed. --- Well, $5400 on a strap and $6500 on a bracelet at Joma, and that's MSRP - you should get a US warranty for that price - if not, I'd check at an A-D).
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Post by jason_recliner » September 20th 2021, 4:00pm

kevco wrote:
September 20th 2021, 8:50am
jason_recliner wrote:
September 20th 2021, 8:04am
kevco wrote:
September 20th 2021, 7:13am
Can you guys give me some models of Milus to consider?
There's only three. I have the Snow Star, live it. There's that Archimedes diver, like good if you're into divers. And they have a base model called the Lab or something. It's a bit Bauhaus, has a fibreglass dial, not really my thing.
I found a Snow Star that is priced much less than the Tudor. I will definitively consider.
Just make sure it's the current model. You can easily tell as the current model has no cyclops. The old one is pretty basic.
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Post by boscoe » November 10th 2021, 3:31pm

Despite my earlier comments, I still enjoy my Tudors and wear the modern versions. They hold up well and, in my opinion, are a bit better made than a Longines (have a modern ceramic "sub"). My Tudor Pepsi GMT is my go-to travel watch - it ain't gonna get me mugged unless some fool mistakes it for a Rolex. But the Tudor will never rival the new or vintage Rolex Pepsi etc. in panache or used market price. But with good reason. As the owner of both, the Rolex is just better made. This opinion is not based on price, just subjective feel.
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Not to disagree with Mr. boscoe, but I also own the Tudor Pepsi GMT, and find it the best watch I've owned, period, This includes the somewhat vintage Rolex Exploder EYE EYE I own. The Tudor is better.

Period.
Cool- Whataya think of the MT5400's timekeeping?
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Re: Tudor Is the New Rolex

Post by conjurer » November 11th 2021, 8:44am

3Flushes wrote:
November 11th 2021, 4:19am
conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 12:38am
Not to disagree with Mr. boscoe, but I also own the Tudor Pepsi GMT, and find it the best watch I've owned, period, This includes the somewhat vintage Rolex Exploder EYE EYE I own. The Tudor is better.

Period.
Cool- Whataya think of the MT5400's timekeeping?
Currently running at +1 second a day.
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Post by smellody » November 11th 2021, 11:07am

conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 8:44am
3Flushes wrote:
November 11th 2021, 4:19am
conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 12:38am
Not to disagree with Mr. boscoe, but I also own the Tudor Pepsi GMT, and find it the best watch I've owned, period, This includes the somewhat vintage Rolex Exploder EYE EYE I own. The Tudor is better.

Period.
Cool- Whataya think of the MT5400's timekeeping?
Currently running at +1 second a day.
How's the lume?
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Re: Tudor Is the New Rolex

Post by 3Flushes » November 11th 2021, 10:06pm

conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 8:44am
3Flushes wrote:
November 11th 2021, 4:19am
conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 12:38am
Not to disagree with Mr. boscoe, but I also own the Tudor Pepsi GMT, and find it the best watch I've owned, period, This includes the somewhat vintage Rolex Exploder EYE EYE I own. The Tudor is better.

Period.
Cool- Whataya think of the MT5400's timekeeping?
Currently running at +1 second a day.
Nice!

Tudor has not only lived up to their mission to produce more progressive designs as laid out when they reorganized, but Tudor has substantially stepped up their game in quality, too, with independant manufacturing and the development of in house calibers and cases. While making great strides in cutting edge design and quality, Tudor has at the same time, bolstered its position as an exceptional value in the midrange of the luxury watch market at a time luxury watch sales have been slumping, particularly in Asian markets.

With the recent introduction of open casebacks on dive watches, Tudor not only bucked the longstanding custom at Rolex of using only solid casebacks, but also challenged the notion widely held by many watch enthusiasts that tool and dive watches should have solid casebacks. Tudor has also challenged the belief of watch patrons that a midrange brand cannot provide the same level of quality as the top level stalwarts of the industry.

So with Tudor challenging the precepts of its parent company and some traditions of the market as well as it seeks an identity as a stand alone brand, the question comes to mind as to what degree Rolex continues to control or influence its subsidiary brand?
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Re: Tudor Is the New Rolex

Post by conjurer » November 11th 2021, 11:35pm

smellody wrote:
November 11th 2021, 11:07am
conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 8:44am
3Flushes wrote:
November 11th 2021, 4:19am
conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 12:38am
Not to disagree with Mr. boscoe, but I also own the Tudor Pepsi GMT, and find it the best watch I've owned, period, This includes the somewhat vintage Rolex Exploder EYE EYE I own. The Tudor is better.

Period.
Cool- Whataya think of the MT5400's timekeeping?
Currently running at +1 second a day.
How's the lume?
The lume kicks ass, too. It lasts all night.
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Re: Tudor Is the New Rolex

Post by boscoe » November 16th 2021, 3:22pm

My Rolex Crown & Case full size Tudor Sub with original fold-over bracelet is worth about $6-9K now depending on site. Mini subs and Datejust knockoffs are much less. Original Black Bay is worth about $1500, $1800. Paid full boat $3200 plus tax six-seven years back.
Vintage Sub was $800 - plus a $500 rehab - in 2003 or 2004.
It's all about the Rolex association. Not likely to buy a Tudor again. Not sure worth the money, based on the return. Think "affordable" is relative in general. Mid-tier brands not a good buy, if you can afford the top level, which is the only place you retain or increase value. Of course, we watch nuts don't buy for investment - but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be prudent.
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Re: Tudor Is the New Rolex

Post by boscoe » November 16th 2021, 3:25pm

conjurer wrote:
November 11th 2021, 12:38am
Not to disagree with Mr. boscoe, but I also own the Tudor Pepsi GMT, and find it the best watch I've owned, period, This includes the somewhat vintage Rolex Exploder EYE EYE I own. The Tudor is better.

Period.
I like my Tudor GMT as well - is a fine watch, keeps excellent time. Wear it more than my green or red arrow Rolexes, especially when I travel. But prefer the current Rolex models for ceramic bezel. My Tudor picked up a hairline scratch, which is annoying.
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