"Luxury or Lie?", by Jeff Hess & accutronitis (lies)

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"Luxury or Lie?", by Jeff Hess & accutronitis (lies)

Post by bobbee » April 10th 2018, 8:22pm

The NAWCC have replaced their original presenter of the course that teaches people how to spot fakes with the author and CEO of Ball Watch co. Jeff Hess.
All the best to Jeff, he is a very likeable guy.

https://www.pawnexpo.com/jeffrey-hess/

About time they got someone who knows what he is talking about.
The other guy doesn't have any sour grapes...

https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/luxury-or- ... as.151134/
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Re: "Luxury or Lie?", now presented by Jeff Hess

Post by MKTheVintageBloke » April 11th 2018, 12:13am

The thing is, that if they only change the person presenting the course, not the course itself, it will still be shit, as the entire course was written by someone who knows absolutely nothing.
You cannot explain away a wantonly immoral act, because you think that it is connected to some higher purpose.
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Post by bobbee » April 11th 2018, 1:42am

If you read between the lines of the posts in the second link, he warns them not to use his own information, as it would be plagiarism.
Funny, coming from the guy who plagiarized David Boettcher for much of his info on trench watches, and a whole article on that 'Quality of Myth' thread on WUS...
I have the screenshots of all the posts the mods removed to spare his blushes in that thread...
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Re: "Luxury or Lie?", now presented by Jeff Hess

Post by bobbee » July 14th 2018, 2:52am

...And Harris is trying to bring Ball Watches into the fray.


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https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/dropping-the-ball.153216/

Harris now buying and selling watches, buys a used Ball that doesn't work properly and sells it on, as is.
Has to give refund, then trashes Ball watches on an open forum.
He's looking at a legal challenge from Jeff Hess for defamation, surely?
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Post by MKTheVintageBloke » July 14th 2018, 9:02am

I think he has likely jumped on an opportunity to piss off Jeff Hess. What else can he do now? Harris is finished. His "precioussss" course was taken over by Hess, who has been giving him way too much leeway in the past few years, and his role as the resident NAWCC agitator on WUS has been taken over by his former acolyte Lehman. So, he just does what he usually did, i.e. acts in a vile manner, stabs people in the back, and posts a ton of libel.
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Post by MKTheVintageBloke » July 14th 2018, 10:39am

He certainly tried to crawl up Donkey arse in the BaB threads, when he tried to troll me there, only to get a scragging from everyone. I don’t know if he has built any relations with them, I also know nothing of his current business. If he does any vintage watch trade, that could be BaB-worthy material.
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Post by conjurer » July 16th 2018, 7:33pm

bobbee wrote:Short memory John?
Recent troll, logged on as 'Heisenberg' here a few months ago.


I know. I was just breaking your balls a little bit.
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Post by koimaster » November 14th 2019, 10:44am

Appears the accutron troll is at it again.
Jean Marcel thread troll.pdf

https://www.watchfreeks.com/33-general- ... ost2737113
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Re: "Luxury or Lie?", now presented by Jeff Hess

Post by conjurer » November 14th 2019, 11:41pm

bobbee wrote:
November 14th 2019, 1:07pm
Way to go Alain, you shut him up - for now!
Indeed. Way back, when I busted the guy's balls who makes Smiths Everest watches, Alain stepped up for me (long before I even ever met him in real life) on TZ-UK, in a post that threatened the entire US-UK Special Relationship. He just did this because he thought it was right, and I was a member of his forum. Alain is a real pal, and nobody should forget it.
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Post by bobbee » November 15th 2019, 2:22am

He sure is John.
Accucunt is now replying to Alains posts at Watchfreeks, but others have called him out too.

https://www.watchfreeks.com/33-general- ... ost2737167

https://www.watchfreeks.com/33-general- ... ost2737169


How about this?
Accutronitis faked screengrab. Note the "date", October the eighth, 2015. I was banned 3months previous for arguing with Stephen over his Lone Eagle theory.


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I contacted the admin at myBulova, Stephen Ollman, who confirmed it was fake in an email (forwarded to Alain), and sent me proof, and also confirming Accutronitis and Astronaut M2 were one and the same.


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Re: "Luxury or Lie?", now presented by Jeff Hess

Post by koimaster » November 15th 2019, 4:15pm

bobbee wrote:
November 15th 2019, 2:47pm
I can still see both threads.

Your thread:

https://www.watchfreeks.com/33-general- ... ost2737167



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Post by svaglic » November 15th 2019, 4:34pm

He sent me a private message
It’s nice to have friends in high places.

Not sure if he means because he got the thread pulled or maybe he got some information on me.
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Re: "Luxury or Lie?", now presented by Jeff Hess

Post by koimaster » November 15th 2019, 5:21pm

svaglic wrote:
November 15th 2019, 4:34pm
He sent me a private message
It’s nice to have friends in high places.

Not sure if he means because he got the thread pulled or maybe he got some information on me.
Who sent you a private message? Kalina? And are you referring to the thread at watchfreeks that the link goes to? If so, it was closed because a troll by the name of accutronitis got himself involved, went after me and then was exposed as a fraud. Chazman46 also was causing some issues as do most watchgeeks or former ones. That guy was trying to prove his "bona fides" by pointing to together we served. He is a former marine and tunnel rat. I knew he was a jarhead so he had nothing to prove but to him and enzotroll over there I am the hater supreme. My home is where a watch snob is expected to live, I need a testosterone boost so I drive vettes. It seems to never end with these WGs. I made it clear to them that the only "watchsnobs" I have ever encountered were watchgeeks.
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