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Watchery.com and Ashford.com

Post by seaurchin » November 26th 2013, 10:29pm

I am sure this topic has been beaten TO DEATH, but i used the search function and was unable to find anything regarding this topic.

These two websites sell watches that are not covered by manufacturer's warranty, so i was wondering are these watches real? Prices on some of the watches can be a few thousand dollars.
My question is are these actual watches that are made by the manufacturer on the dial or are these fakes and replicas?

They sell Invicta Pro Diver for $80, http://www.thewatchery.com/detail.asp?i ... 4377120004

I was seating and pondering, for a mere $300 one can buy two or three watches and constantly mix and match with your overall attire. Compared to real Swiss Made Masterpieces that can cost over $2,000

Here's another example, Perrelet for $3,500 http://www.thewatchery.com/detail.asp?i ... _id=176549

Thank you all for your time, good night to all, even if you are a grammar Nazi.
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Re: Watchery and Ashford

Post by seaurchin » November 26th 2013, 10:44pm

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I am sorry, but i don't see any mistakes in my post, you must be drunk or something.
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Post by Horse Feathers » November 26th 2013, 11:00pm

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I am sorry, but i don't see any mistakes in my post, you must be drunk or something.


My apologies, that was harsh of me.

With Invicta multiples are always the best option
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Post by Horse Feathers » November 26th 2013, 11:13pm

conjurer wrote:Yo, H-F. I got the work car lubed and oil-changed. Is 3Flushes available? We could stop on the way back at Delmonicos and get a little surf'n'turf action going on.


Now now, I was harsh and apologized. I think we need to just help this lad find the right timepieces that will sing to him and offer a whole new lifestyle.
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Post by conjurer » November 26th 2013, 11:15pm

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conjurer wrote:Yo, H-F. I got the work car lubed and oil-changed. Is 3Flushes available? We could stop on the way back at Delmonicos and get a little surf'n'turf action going on.


Now now, I was harsh and apologized. I think we need to just help this lad find the right timepieces that will sing to him and offer a whole new lifestyle.


OK, H-F. I figured the shallow grave would work, but we could try it your way.
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Re: Watchery.com and Ashford.com

Post by seaurchin » November 26th 2013, 11:17pm

Well, my main question is still unanswered, are those watches made by companies on the dial, or are they made by Oriental people in the far East (China). For example I was walking today and saw someone on the street selling Movado for $70, clearly those weren't authentic.

I don't want to pay for something that is not genuine, so that is why I am asking.

If they are real, I find it enticing to purchase one set of Pro Diver, which is Invicta's take on the simplest, most beautiful watch ever, Rolex Submariner.
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Post by conjurer » November 26th 2013, 11:24pm

seaurchin wrote:Well, my main question is still unanswered, are those watches made by companies on the dial, or are they made by Oriental people in the far East (China). For example I was walking today and saw someone on the street selling Movado for $70, clearly those weren't authentic.

I don't want to pay for something that is not genuine, so that is why I am asking.

If they are real, I find it enticing to purchase one set of Pro Diver, which is Invicta's take on the simplest, most beautiful watch ever, Rolex Submariner.


Seaurchin, I have to admire you and your tenacity. The early (pre-2010) Invicter Prodivers were OK. They had a decent movement (the Miyota) and a pretty good bracelet. They also had a street price of around $100, which means nobody in their right mind would knock them off. Also, the Watchery and Ashford are grey-market sellers, meaning they sell shit sold in different markets in America (or wherever) and so don't generally offer manufacturer's warrantees, which in Invicter's case doesn't matter anyways.
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Post by svaglic » November 26th 2013, 11:40pm

In order to use an Invicta warranty, you will have to pay more than what it would cost to buy a new Invicta. Your Invicta may last you 3-6 months, Invicta usually arrives broken though. As to if they are fake watches; no one would fake an Invicta. It would be too much for some one to make a fake Invicta with broken hands, broken crystals, broken movements, floating hour markers, creased dials and bracelets that won't stay on.
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Post by 3Flushes » November 27th 2013, 1:25am

Grey market sellers generally acquire merch from bankrupt distributors, broke jewelry stores, etc., or, from various sources outside of the US without going through the official US distribution network, importer, or the manufacturer. While the reputable guys sell the real deal, they are not authorized dealers (AD's) so the manufacturers' warranty is most often void, however, they are able to offer the merch at a better price than you would ever get from an AD.

Delmonicos sounds good fellas, I'll keep my schedule open in case. Lemme know.
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Post by Horse Feathers » November 27th 2013, 1:43am

abduksion wrote:Isn't the Watchery owned by Lior?


Yup, at one time. He purchased that site a couple of years ago and then his businesses tanked

He liked kingdom building but it looks like it was out of hand (ex. Lucien Picard)

http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida ... ucien.html

From what I read he tried rescue financing through a couple sources (basically lenders of last resort) and then was was forced to sell the SWI group (WorldofWatches.com, eWatches.com, TheWatchery.com, and SmartBargains.com) to a private equity firm whom just happened to be a primary creditor (Clearlake Capital)

http://www.clearlakecapital.com/news/41 ... ition.html

http://www.clearlakecapital.com/portfolio.html
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Post by abduksion » November 27th 2013, 2:53am

Horse Feathers wrote:
abduksion wrote:Isn't the Watchery owned by Lior?


Yup, at one time. He purchased that site a couple of years ago and then his businesses tanked

He liked kingdom building but it looks like it was out of hand (ex. Lucien Picard)

http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida ... ucien.html

From what I read he tried rescue financing through a couple sources (basically lenders of last resort) and then was was forced to sell the SWI group (WorldofWatches.com, eWatches.com, TheWatchery.com, and SmartBargains.com) to a private equity firm whom just happened to be a primary creditor (Clearlake Capital)

http://www.clearlakecapital.com/news/41 ... ition.html

http://www.clearlakecapital.com/portfolio.html


Damn had no idea he sold off WOW? :o :shock:
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Post by codguy » November 27th 2013, 5:35am

seaurchin wrote: for a mere $300 one can buy two or three watches and constantly mix and match with your overall attire.


You are truly limiting yourself seaurchin , for that same $300 you can purchase at least seven timepieces and wear a different one each day of the week.
Check the jewelry counter at K-mart, lots of great deals to be had there.

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Post by WatchDorks.Net » November 27th 2013, 7:32am

seaurchin wrote:Well, my main question is still unanswered, are those watches made by companies on the dial, or are they made by Oriental people in the far East (China).


You do realize that when it comes to TV brands and brands sold on deal-a-day and watch emporium sites, the above two things are not always mutually exclusive.
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Post by Luftwafflles » November 27th 2013, 7:38am

You could buy forty Invicters for the price of one Rolex. You could buy five Mark Namiers for the price of one Invicter. Or you could buy ten generic watches from Ali Baba or Ebay for the price of five Mark Namiers. Or you could draw a dial on a piece of paper and glue it to your wrist with your own feces for virtually nothing, since price is apparently the only priority.
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Post by biglove » November 27th 2013, 7:53am

seaurchin wrote:Well, my main question is still unanswered, are those watches made by companies on the dial, or are they made by Oriental people in the far East (China). For example I was walking today and saw someone on the street selling Movado for $70, clearly those weren't authentic.

I don't want to pay for something that is not genuine, so that is why I am asking.

If they are real, I find it enticing to purchase one set of Pro Diver, which is Invicta's take on the simplest, most beautiful watch ever, Rolex Submariner.


"Oriental people in the far East (China)?" WTF kind of racist shit is that?! Really?

Seriously, who do you think makes that pretty iPhone and damn near every appliance you own?

I own one Invicta. Loved the dial color and couldn't afford the Stowa with the same dial color. The Invicta will not stay in my collection long. It is a decent watch for the money but there are FAR better watches for the $90 I spent on it. There is NO Invicta made worth more than $100. None. Nope, not the one you are thinking of with the uber special ceramicaluminaSuperMansperm coating, even.

Read my lips...Invicta has its place in the watch world and that place is Wal-Mart.
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Post by AJC » November 27th 2013, 7:56am

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Post by Falstaff » November 27th 2013, 8:46am

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seaurchin wrote:Well, my main question is still unanswered, are those watches made by companies on the dial, or are they made by Oriental people in the far East (China). For example I was walking today and saw someone on the street selling Movado for $70, clearly those weren't authentic.

I don't want to pay for something that is not genuine, so that is why I am asking.

If they are real, I find it enticing to purchase one set of Pro Diver, which is Invicta's take on the simplest, most beautiful watch ever, Rolex Submariner.


"Oriental people in the far East (China)?" WTF kind of racist shit is that?! Really?

Seriously, who do you think makes that pretty iPhone and damn near every appliance you own?

I own one Invicta. Loved the dial color and couldn't afford the Stowa with the same dial color. The Invicta will not stay in my collection long. It is a decent watch for the money but there are FAR better watches for the $90 I spent on it. There is NO Invicta made worth more than $100. None. Nope, not the one you are thinking of with the uber special ceramicaluminaSuperMansperm coating, even.

Read my lips...Invicta has its place in the watch world and that place is Wal-Mart.


"Oriental people" is racist? Who do you expect to find in the Far East, red Injuns? Esquimeaux? ...and yes, the heathen Chinese build a lovely refrigerator.
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Post by TemerityB » November 27th 2013, 11:10am

Luftwafflles wrote:You could buy forty Invicters for the price of one Rolex. You could buy five Mark Namiers for the price of one Invicter. Or you could buy ten generic watches from Ali Baba or Ebay for the price of five Mark Namiers. Or you could draw a dial on a piece of paper and glue it to your wrist with your own feces for virtually nothing, since price is apparently the only priority.


Luft's high-water mark for 2013.
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Post by Horse Feathers » November 27th 2013, 11:25am

TemerityB wrote:
Luftwafflles wrote:You could buy forty Invicters for the price of one Rolex. You could buy five Mark Namiers for the price of one Invicter. Or you could buy ten generic watches from Ali Baba or Ebay for the price of five Mark Namiers. Or you could draw a dial on a piece of paper and glue it to your wrist with your own feces for virtually nothing, since price is apparently the only priority.


Luft's high-water mark for 2013.


I laughed out loud, technically if you "draw a dial on a piece of paper and glue it to your wrist with your own feces" you're probably violating Invicta's only original patent, the Invicta Sea Pickle
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Post by smellody » November 27th 2013, 1:25pm

Hey guys. I have a cavernous trunk if needed. . .

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conjurer wrote:Yo, H-F. I got the work car lubed and oil-changed. Is 3Flushes available? We could stop on the way back at Delmonicos and get a little surf'n'turf action going on.


Now now, I was harsh and apologized. I think we need to just help this lad find the right timepieces that will sing to him and offer a whole new lifestyle.


OK, H-F. I figured the shallow grave would work, but we could try it your way.
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