Watchlords

Sturhling and SWI have no idea how to design watches. They are strictly limited to knocking off better known companies. I have yet to see either come out with something original.

Invicta does come out with a few original designs, but they are almost always incredibly ugly. I think it usually stems from Eyal's immense ego allowing him to think he is a designer, and being surrounded by Mikey, Jill and the other "yes" men.

They're basically filling the gap for those who like the high end watch designs, but are unable to afford to pay for the privilege of owning the original...and they're both making a lot of money doing it!

Ed Barclay wrote:Sturhling and SWI have no idea how to design watches. They are strictly limited to knocking off better known companies. I have yet to see either come out with something original.

They're basically filling the gap for those who like the high end watch designs, but are unable to afford to pay for the privilege of owning the original...and they're both making a lot of money doing it!

bingo, bullseye, on the money baby!

I don't know that I recall a single actual original design from Invicta.

Came accross this model on TZ. As best I can tell, produced by Citizen briefly in 1999, referred to as the "Robert Swan" edition. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So clearly predates the Oceanaut Pacha, Renato Beast/TRex Mink creations.

mrneddles wrote:Came accross this model on TZ. As best I can tell, produced by Citizen briefly in 1999, referred to as the "Robert Swan" edition. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So clearly predates the Oceanaut Pacha, Renato Beast/TRex Mink creations.

what do you mean the T-Rex has to be original! say it isn't so!...

mrneddles wrote:Came accross this model on TZ. As best I can tell, produced by Citizen briefly in 1999, referred to as the "Robert Swan" edition. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So clearly predates the Oceanaut Pacha, Renato Beast/TRex Mink creations.

That is one cool Citizen.

mrneddles wrote:Came accross this model on TZ. As best I can tell, produced by Citizen briefly in 1999, referred to as the "Robert Swan" edition. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So clearly predates the Oceanaut Pacha, Renato Beast/TRex Mink creations.

look at the post in the asian watch forum on this topic. You are right in the timeline for the watch and this case design.

Citizen Robert Swan Super Tough
This very rare eco-drive model was sold 7/99

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-citizen-robert-swan-super-tough-373850.html

boscoe wrote:Cartier



Rotary

I am having problems posting pics ..but the new Cuadro by Infectya is dead off on the case design of the Cartier

The Citizen is circa 1999, the oceanaut 2003 and the beast circa 2004/2005 yet if memory serves me correctly, mink made a big deal out of producing a patent for the case design.

I just discovered this topic. I personally have no problems with look-alikes, or similarly styled homages. But it's great to be informed. Sometimes the appearance of the original is dramatically better than the knock-offs. You can really see why the original has so much increased value. For example, Cartier always looks beautiful, very fine quality, and expensive. SO almost never looks so, even on casual inspection. Other times, the knock-offs are even better looking. (I'm thinking some of the Androids.)

I've seen some replica Brietlings that are beautiful, but I've never purchased one.

I know this has been a dormant thred for a whle, but...

Richard Mille RM25:


Renato Buzo Extreme:

The Richard Mille/Renato Buzo Extreme copy was on page 2 of this thread.

I SWEAR I looked for it! I SWEAR!

Looking through ones eyes is much effort.

codguy wrote:Looking through ones eyes is much effort.

I only have one eye!

I could have sworn Bulova had a model that cloned (or the other way around) the Beast. I have seen it on eBay on occasion through the years. And who can't forget premium Joshua & Son's version of Daniel's patented design.

koimaster wrote:The Citizen is circa 1999, the oceanaut 2003 and the beast circa 2004/2005 yet if memory serves me correctly, mink made a big deal out of producing a patent for the case design.

Corum Titanium Bridge

Storm Mekon

Stuhrling, you really are shameless.

mrneddles wrote:Stuhrling, you really are shameless.

Dateline: SoCal. I guess we should add these, too...



However, there just isn't any comparison between Seiko and Stuhurling unOriginal. Seiko is quality personified. S.O. is not. Seiko builds watches that combine style, strength and longevity. S.O. slaps together some 'amazing' pieces that seemingly disintegrate after a couple of years. Hell, there are now entire websites devoted to 'mod'ing' certain Seikos with cool aftermarket accessories and designs. (And I can't wait to receive my newly-minted Seiko "Green Monster." Damn thing'll have enough super luminova (c) to coat a basketball three times...maybe four) S.O. seems to have permanently landed in the 'Shitty Little Watch Corner' of most right-thinking WIS sites.

So am I giving Seiko a pass because they're such an awesome company? As dey say in Meenasoota, da DakOta's and Good 'ol 'Sconsin, YOU BETCHA...Seiko has the pride of their history; Stuhurling has their shameless theft of designs and will one day be history. At least this Cub Reporter is of that opine.

This is Mortuus, reporting for WL News in sunny North San Diego County, where the men are men, and the avocados are nervous.

Seiko's case design is derivative of the Ventura, but the entire watch isn't a flat out COPY like the 'turdling.

As a Venutra collector (see the Vintage and Hamilton watch forums here), I bought the first release Seiko Triangle Chrono over, gosh, a decade plus ago (lower right model seen below). I was happy to wrist a salute to the classic from a quality company that could serve as a daily Ventura beater of sorts. Consider it selective indignation, but I feel no insult due to Seiko's original take on the historic design that makes it all their own. Plus, no original Ventura came on a bracelet as this does.

The Turdling is another story altogether. It has generated the most disgust felt for any watch company in a long time.

Mortuus wrote:

For Queso Grande & ChronoMATT: Well said, both of you. If it is selective indignation, then so be it. To those of us who know the difference between a turd(ling) and a tearose, it's an easy, even ethically sound call to make.

Mortuus wrote:Turd vs. Tea rose...

Needed to add one more, a Turdling Speshal...

MrNeddles posted the below Concord on RenatoForums as an example of Struhrling's cloning talent and I couldn't help but notice the unmistakable similarity of the Invicta Akula's rubber bezel/strap integration and squared-off case.




Which came first? Hamilton "Regulus" (late 1950s); Accutron "D" (mid 1960s); Android "Dominatore" (this century).