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Postby Ofcmark » June 17th 2017, 8:03am

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Re: Cosby

Postby conjurer » June 17th 2017, 8:58am

A weak case, a weak witness. I personally think Cosby is guilty as sin, but I don't have to argue it in court.
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Re: Cosby

Postby Luftwafflles » June 17th 2017, 9:19am

I think he's guilty as hell too. But the guy is 80 years old, and half blind. Not many juries are going to be unanimous about sending him to prison. Even if he got five years, it would be a life sentence. Not defending his actions, but most, if not all, of those women sat on their ass, some for more than 20 years, before complaining. To me, if you want justice, you need to do something immediately.
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Re: Cosby

Postby eddiea » June 17th 2017, 10:47am

Personally, I think he's innocent until otherwise is proven beyond a reasonable doubt....
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Re: Cosby

Postby jason_recliner » June 17th 2017, 2:03pm

The guy is a dirty fucking piece of shit and has admitted as much. He would just go into protection in prison. Maybe street justice will catch up with him on the outside.

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Re: Cosby

Postby 3Flushes » June 17th 2017, 2:11pm

conjurer wrote:A weak case, a weak witness. I personally think Cosby is guilty as sin, but I don't have to argue it in court.

The parade of accusers coming forward, some, decades after Cosby's alleged criminal behavior, makes their credibility dubious at best in my opinion. I don't know about the other accusers' claims as to what Cosby told them he was giving them, if anything, or if accusers claim to have been slipped a Mickey, or what.

In this case however, District Attornies proximate in time to the alleged offense had previously declined to prosecute Cosby, I believe on at least two prior occasions.

Constand made conflicting statements over time, it would appear, refined to mitigate the unprosecutable status of her allegations based on her prior statements. Despite Constand's highly questionable credibility and motives, the current DA, more than seven years after the fact, made the decision to prosecute.

Constand was given three pills by Cosby that he told her were "three little friends" to help her relax. And she took them. They weren't slipped into a drink, they weren't hidden in food, they weren't described as anything inactive, herbal, or as vitamins. Constand was told the pills were to help her relax, and she took them without asking what they were. The accuser further maintained a relationship with Cosby following the alleged assault, having met and communicated with him a total of 72 times.

Case closed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/entertainment/latest-cosby-jury-review-lawsuit-testimony-article-1.3240752

Parenthetically, Cosby has been overwhelmingly adjudicated to be at best, a scumbag, at worst, a rapist in the court of public opinion. However, the actions of a scumbag frequently don't rise to the level of criminal behavior. The Cosby case, at least thus far, is a good example of how, despite the potential prejudice from an excoriating trial in the court of public opinion, defendants get fair trials regardless in American courts of law where they are procedurally and statutorily insulated form the potential prejudice of mere public opinion.
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Re: Cosby

Postby eddiea » June 17th 2017, 2:15pm

3Flushes wrote:
conjurer wrote:A weak case, a weak witness. I personally think Cosby is guilty as sin, but I don't have to argue it in court.

The parade of accusers coming forward, some, decades after Cosby's alleged criminal behavior, makes their credibility dubious at best in my opinion. I don't know about the other accusers' claims as to what Cosby told them he was giving them, if anything, or if accusers claim to have been slipped a Mickey, or what.

In this case however, District Attornies proximate in time to the alleged offense had previously declined to prosecute Cosby, I believe on at least two prior occasions.

Constand made conflicting statements over time, it would appear, refined to mitigate the unprosecutable status of her allegations based on her prior statements. Despite Constand's highly questionable credibility and motives, the current DA, more than seven years after the fact, made the decision to prosecute.

Constand was given three pills by Cosby that he told her were "three little friends" to help her relax. And she took them. They weren't slipped into a drink, they weren't hidden in food, they weren't described as anything inactive, herbal, or as vitamins. Constand was told the pills were to help her relax, and she took them without asking what they were. The accuser further maintained a relationship with Cosby following the alleged assault, having met and communicated with him a total of 72 times.

Case closed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/entertainment/latest-cosby-jury-review-lawsuit-testimony-article-1.3240752

Parenthetically, Cosby has been overwhelmingly adjudicated to be at best, a scumbag, at worst, a rapist in the court of public opinion. However, the actions of a scumbag frequently don't rise to the level of criminal behavior. The Cosby case, at least thus far, is a good example of how, despite the potential prejudice from an excoriating trial in the court of public opinion, defendants get fair trials regardless in American courts of law where defendants are procedurally and statutorily insulated form the potential prejudice of mere public opinion.

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Re: Cosby

Postby abduksion » June 17th 2017, 2:58pm

Look I may not be the smartest one here hell I know I'm not but why would these women
wait over 40+ yrs to come forward?
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Re: Cosby

Postby biglove » June 17th 2017, 3:49pm

From what I read the jury had stalled out at 10 believing innocent, two stuck on guilty. Sounds like the DA stepped off into a very weak case. Cosby might be a scumbag, swinging dick with a penchant for fucking chicks that were semi-sedated; but, a helluva' long wait for the women to come forth is a tad suspect.

I am thinking the DA had political aspirations and this was going to be the case that set him on his way up?
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Re: Cosby

Postby Tzimisces » June 17th 2017, 4:31pm

3Flushes wrote:
conjurer wrote:A weak case, a weak witness. I personally think Cosby is guilty as sin, but I don't have to argue it in court.

The parade of accusers coming forward, some, decades after Cosby's alleged criminal behavior, makes their credibility dubious at best in my opinion. I don't know about the other accusers' claims as to what Cosby told them he was giving them, if anything, or if accusers claim to have been slipped a Mickey, or what.

In this case however, District Attornies proximate in time to the alleged offense had previously declined to prosecute Cosby, I believe on at least two prior occasions.

Constand made conflicting statements over time, it would appear, refined to mitigate the unprosecutable status of her allegations based on her prior statements. Despite Constand's highly questionable credibility and motives, the current DA, more than seven years after the fact, made the decision to prosecute.

Constand was given three pills by Cosby that he told her were "three little friends" to help her relax. And she took them. They weren't slipped into a drink, they weren't hidden in food, they weren't described as anything inactive, herbal, or as vitamins. Constand was told the pills were to help her relax, and she took them without asking what they were. The accuser further maintained a relationship with Cosby following the alleged assault, having met and communicated with him a total of 72 times.

Case closed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/entertainment/latest-cosby-jury-review-lawsuit-testimony-article-1.3240752

Parenthetically, Cosby has been overwhelmingly adjudicated to be at best, a scumbag, at worst, a rapist in the court of public opinion. However, the actions of a scumbag frequently don't rise to the level of criminal behavior. The Cosby case, at least thus far, is a good example of how, despite the potential prejudice from an excoriating trial in the court of public opinion, defendants get fair trials regardless in American courts of law where they are procedurally and statutorily insulated form the potential prejudice of mere public opinion.

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Re: Cosby

Postby 3Flushes » June 17th 2017, 7:58pm

Tzimisces wrote:
3Flushes wrote:
conjurer wrote:...
Like the dipshit who shot Cecil?

Not at all...that scumbag evaded trial in a court of law. :mrgreen:
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Re: Cosby

Postby Luftwafflles » June 17th 2017, 11:49pm

I dunno, but to me, even if you take away the whole pill thing, it's like, suppose a woman is in your home, drinks too much, and passes out, or just falls asleep from fatigue. Does that give you the right to take advantage of her?That is the action of a dirt bag with no honor or morals. Even if the woman sheepishly accepts it later, it doesn't change what you did. I do think these women were irresponsible for not taking immediate action, as they could have possibly saved other women from their fate. I just find it unlikely that all sixty women are lying fame seekers. The worse part is that Cosby's wife was in their home on a number of occasions when these claimed incidents happened.
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Postby Wasp » June 18th 2017, 6:37am

I think the man feels guilty. He is struggling with himself over his actions. Guilty or innocent I hope he finds peace.
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Postby biglove » June 18th 2017, 7:16am

And now the civil suits will commence. Guilty or not in a criminal court, he will likely lose his ass with all those lawsuits. No need to demonstrate guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a civil court.
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Postby Falstaff » June 18th 2017, 7:22am

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Postby eddiea » June 18th 2017, 7:26am

Luftwafflles wrote: I do think these women were irresponsible for not taking immediate action, as they could have possibly saved other women from their fate. I just find it unlikely that all sixty women are lying fame seekers.

Not a particular hot dude, these women were after the fame and fortune that came along with the Cosby name , himself a part of Hefner inner circle where sex, drugs and rock and roll was the norm, everyone in the goddamn world knew Bill was a playboy ...finding themselves in compromising situations then go pretending naiveness about Bill's persona is bullshit in my book.
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Re: Cosby

Postby bedlam » June 18th 2017, 5:01pm

I see the damage self-entitled pricks can leave in their wake. It can take a life-time for people to get from under the abuse and be willing to face the issue, let alone endure a legal process. He is an abuser at best and probably a rapist. Hopefully shit will come around and he will get whatever he deserves.
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Re: Cosby

Postby Falstaff » June 18th 2017, 5:24pm

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Postby AJC » June 19th 2017, 3:29am

In lighter news, if found guilty, there will be an open house next to Falstaff in the Society Hill section of Philadelphia.

Where are they trying him? Norristown?
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Postby Falstaff » June 19th 2017, 5:13am

AJC wrote:In lighter news, if found guilty, there will be an open house next to Falstaff in the Society Hill section of Philadelphia.

Where are they trying him? Norristown?



Wrong hill, but yup - Norristown.
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Re: Cosby

Postby AJC » June 19th 2017, 6:20am

Falstaff wrote:
AJC wrote:In lighter news, if found guilty, there will be an open house next to Falstaff in the Society Hill section of Philadelphia.

Where are they trying him? Norristown?



Wrong hill, but yup - Norristown.


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Postby Falstaff » June 19th 2017, 7:24am

AJC wrote:
Falstaff wrote:
AJC wrote:In lighter news, if found guilty, there will be an open house next to Falstaff in the Society Hill section of Philadelphia.

Where are they trying him? Norristown?



Wrong hill, but yup - Norristown.


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Postby Wasp » June 19th 2017, 10:14am

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Re: Cosby

Postby eddiea » June 19th 2017, 11:25am

bedlam wrote:I see the damage self-entitled pricks can leave in their wake. It can take a life-time for people to get from under the abuse and be willing to face the issue, let alone endure a legal process. He is an abuser at best and probably a rapist. Hopefully shit will come around and he will get whatever he deserves.

In no way I'm suggesting the guy is innocent but, presumption of innocence until proven guilty, is the law of the land .. that's why typically I disregard the court of public opinion, proven to be wrong in many, many instances and this been a high profile case? probably not the exception ...
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Re: Cosby

Postby BigCheez » June 19th 2017, 2:46pm

I am a Christian, and I hope they find a different, less compromised victim, and if the prosecutor proves the case beyond reasonable doubt, that Cosby is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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