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How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: December 5th 2017, 5:00pm
by koimaster
I recently got myself the Bulova Moon Watch, a reproduction released by the brand earlier this year. For those of you unaware, the watch is based on an unofficial prototype worn by Astronaut David Scott during the Apollo 15 mission. That watch first came to light in 2015 when it was auctioned and sold for $1,300,000 at RR Auctions. Bulova naturally seized on the hype, and released their homage to that now iconic watch later that year.


Now, as fascinating as this all is, I prefer to dig a little deeper on the watches I buy, so I started doing some research. Specifically, I wanted to know the differences between the original and the current reproduction, so I started with the movement. In my research, there was confusion whether the original had a Valjoux 72 or 7736. But let’s shelve that for now, because as I dug deeper, I found bits of information suggesting the original watch was actually a variant of the Universal Genève Space-Compax! That was totally unexpected, but being as curious as I am, I found find myself falling down a rabbit hole, one that I learned was filled with many dubious leads.

Unsurprisingly, most Internet forum chatter is hearsay. Claims are often presented without any substantiated research or proof. These claims then turn into facts through the echo chamber that is Online watchdom.


http://wornandwound.com/bulova-used-uni ... one-today/

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: December 5th 2017, 5:13pm
by bedlam
Good read.

Interesting that the Omega Speedmaster was required to be 51% American made to meet NASA purchasing requirements but says 'Swiss Made' on the dial :scratch:

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: December 5th 2017, 5:53pm
by Thunder1
bedlam wrote:Good read.

Interesting that the Omega Speedmaster was required to be 51% American made to meet NASA purchasing requirements but says 'Swiss Made' on the dial :scratch:

About 50 years later & still a controversy... :P

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: December 5th 2017, 11:34pm
by bobbee
The original watch first came to light in 2014, not 2015.
There was a thread on mybulova.com involving a guy from collectspace.com. This guy wanted to know if they had heard of the watch, as a collector at collectspace had bought the stopwatch used on re-entry by Commander Scott. He had told others that he had seen the chronograph at Scott's bank whilst picking up the stopwatch, and taken a photo of it with Scott's permission.
After a big debate here:. http://www.mybulova.com/forums/bulova-c ... -apollo-15

I got in touch with the owner of mybulova and told him I had found the owner of the stopwatch on another website, and gotten the guy's email address. After my talking with Stephen from mybulova, he contacted the owner of the stopwatch, who contacted Commander Scott, asking for permission to publish the photo of the never before seen chronograph wristwatch, and permission was granted.

My small part in the 'coming out' of the chronograph still gives me a kick.
Never got a free watch from Bulova though! :)

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: December 5th 2017, 11:58pm
by bobbee
I have commented on the worn and wound article, whether it gets published is another thing...

Here is the Bulova 1971 patent for the moon watch, check the date and compare to the flight date of Apollo15, although applied for two years prior it was granted the day after launch. Possibly for secrecy?



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Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 12:30pm
by heisenberg
Interesting video about that watch with the only person who was allowed to touch it before it was sold for 1.3 million dollars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z84hBIWqxg

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 12:34pm
by foghorn
heisenberg wrote:Interesting video about that watch with the only person who was allowed to touch it before it was sold for 1.3 million dollars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z84hBIWqxg



Why are you hidden?

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 12:40pm
by heisenberg
foghorn wrote:
heisenberg wrote:Interesting video about that watch with the only person who was allowed to touch it before it was sold for 1.3 million dollars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z84hBIWqxg



Why are you hidden?
If the Arizona DEA knew I was still alive they would come looking for me... lol

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 1:29pm
by bobbee
heisenberg wrote:
foghorn wrote:
heisenberg wrote:Interesting video about that watch with the only person who was allowed to touch it before it was sold for 1.3 million dollars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z84hBIWqxg



Why are you hidden?
If the Arizona DEA knew I was still alive they would come looking for me... lol


They already caught you and made you do 180 hours community service.

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 2:40pm
by heisenberg
bobbee wrote:
heisenberg wrote:
foghorn wrote:
heisenberg wrote:Interesting video about that watch with the only person who was allowed to touch it before it was sold for 1.3 million dollars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z84hBIWqxg



Why are you hidden?
If the Arizona DEA knew I was still alive they would come looking for me... lol


They already caught you and made you do 180 hours community service.
I take it you have no idea what I'm talking about, Look up a show called "Breaking Bad", It was really good!

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 2:42pm
by foghorn
heisenberg wrote:
bobbee wrote:
heisenberg wrote:
foghorn wrote:
heisenberg wrote:Interesting video about that watch with the only person who was allowed to touch it before it was sold for 1.3 million dollars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z84hBIWqxg



Why are you hidden?
If the Arizona DEA knew I was still alive they would come looking for me... lol


They already caught you and made you do 180 hours community service.
I take it you have no idea what I'm talking about, Look up a show called "Breaking Bad", It was really good!



It was good. And "Heisenberg" is dead.
As it should be.

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 2:54pm
by bobbee
I was talking about your real drug bust Accutronitis.

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 3:27pm
by heisenberg
Really they didn't show "Heisenberg" is dead, They showed him on the ground, face up, eyes open, With the police surrounding him...

bobbee wrote:I was talking about your real drug bust Accutronitis.
I can see you really wish I am just someone you could write off as someone else as I seem to have asked questions you don't want to answer, Sorry that ain't the case here...

I would guess this "Accutronitis" has been banned here and you are hoping that's what happens to me as well, Right?

Re: How Bulova Used a Universal Genève to Get to the Moon

PostPosted: February 20th 2018, 7:42pm
by bedlam
heisenberg wrote:I would guess this "Accutronitis" has been banned here and you are hoping that's what happens to me as well, Right?

Not a very good liar are you :lol: